Nothing is as it Seems Mafia: The Game

[Pink Bunny]

Leave Moogle the hell alone. We still have the Hippy Music Cult Leader and it obviously isn't Moogle.
Edit: I think its fairly obvious Raven is Cult now. Screw him and his credibility and lets move on to some real proposals now.
Double Edit: Actually I'm reviewing the thread to check on something about Moogle...

[Moogle0119]

Sorry I must have missed the roleclaim earlier, but since you roleclaimed earlier and it seemed to have checked out then that's all good. Now where's Roy?

[Captain Combustible]

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Well, I didn't visit anyone. So.

I'm also going to say it was a real bad idea to release those names with nothing known about them, because now the bad guys have a nice big list with every townie with powers.

And was the night Sithdarth "visited" the night he died?

I think Roy has to be lieing here because I don't believe Zavage would say Roy targeted Sithdark if Roy hadn't.

FoS: Roy.

[OctoberRaven]

Originally Posted by Pink Bunny

Leave Moogle the hell alone. We still have the Hippy Music Cult Leader and it obviously isn't Moogle.

What makes you think that, other than the fact that he claims to be wanting to help hunt him down? I think it's a diversionary tactic.

Here's what I want to know.

We know people were culted from the Personality Cult to the Music Cult. I wonder if the opposite also happened. If so, and they revert to their original status, then theoretically they can freely tell us who the leader is.

EDIT- Again with the cult accusation Bunny? Then lynch me and prove it, and clear Moogle's name.

EDIT AGAIN- Not voting myself, not unvoting either (yet), but I really want to know what Roy was doing.

EDIT AGAIN AGAIN- A thought occurs. Are Sages immune to cult as well? One would assume so, but I want to know why the hell Pink Bunny is adamant in his defense of Moogle.

[Moogle0119]

Originally Posted by OctoberRaven

What makes you think that, other than the fact that he claims to be wanting to help hunt him down? I think it's a diversionary tactic.

Actually it can be proven. I've roleclaimed Condatino family BG, if I wasn't I'm sure the "real" Condatino BG could have spoken up and have had me outed as a liar. Also there's the fact that it appears as though Sithdarth was culted by the Cult of Music on Night 2 (remember? we've gone through everyone who targeted him Night 1). The Cult of Personality was the one that I personally was scared had infiltrated MY mafia. I'm almost entirely sure MajorBlood (Doppler x2) had culted my mafia don but I didn't realize it until Sithdarth's body revealed the evidence it did. Since Sithdarth was culted by the Cult of Music on Night 2 and immediately died there's no way he could have passed on that information to the only remaining cult leader left alive in this game.

Oh and also I can prove I'm not culted currently either. Take a look at B_real's corpse. Secretskull said earlier (as in on the previous day) that B_real was a culted mafiate roleblocker. Secretskull never mentioned that B_real had been double culted. So going off the fact that the Cult of Personality couldn't induct last night (because the Cult Leader is dead) that means the Cult of Music picked B_real as their target last night which is a moot point now that he's dead. My alignment stayed the same and it seems nobody else who is alive was JUST inducted last night either.

[Pink Bunny]

Because in terms of his family placement it makes complete sense? Also we were prompted in the flavor earlier when another Mafia family was completely killed.

The Condatino family is almost completely destroyed if you look at the roles listing presented. Moogle's admission and targeting of a fellow Condatino family member makes sense; at the very least a Condatino Bodyguard out there exists, and they haven't spoken up. But the other thing is Moogle knew the Mafia pattern too well in his explanation for him to be making it up on the spot.

From what I can see, it looks like Sithdarth was culted the first night by Doppler, and then the second night he was culted by the Cult of Music the same time he was killed.

The theory that Roy is a Cult Leader also has a tiny flaw. Unless Tendronai as a self-aligned was immune to being culted, the role mentioned says nothing about being a member of the Cult of Music like other victims.

But Zavage was accurate and truthful about his role. Roy did target Tendronai no matter how hard he tries to deny it.

Edit: Grammar. Slightly tired.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Originally Posted by Captain Combustible

I think Roy has to be lieing here because I don't believe Zavage would say Roy targeted Sithdark if Roy hadn't.

FoS: Roy.

Mhmm. But like I said. I didn't visit anyone. No proof, though.

[OctoberRaven]

Okay. That earns you a tentative

Unvote: Moogle

But one thing I don't get.

Actually it can be proven. I've roleclaimed Condatino family BG, if I wasn't I'm sure the "real" Condatino BG could have spoken up and have had me outed as a liar.

This proves nothing. What would be the gain from a mafia BG outing himself and making it that much easier to determine his scumbuddies? You're going to be lynched and/or nightkilled the first chance someone gets. We didn't let Demetrius cut a deal, why would you expect the same thing? And why would a mafia BG counterclaim you? Hell, he'd let you do this to throw people off, especially if you had been nightkilled pre-"Tendronai Went Kaboom".

The only person who gains from this would be the cult leader. That's why I'm suspicious.

[Pink Bunny]

On the contrary, there are many archived games of people snapping and doing stupid, game-losing moves specifically so they can take Cult and snap them over their knee.

Why, Roy's an expert!

[Moogle0119]

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Mhmm. But like I said. I didn't visit anyone. No proof, though.

Yes but Zavage has proven correct with what had said earlier, why would he get something like this wrong? In fact his help in pointing out who targeted Sithdarth on Night 1 helped me and the others find who the leader of the Cult of Personality is. So seriously, are you culted or something? The only reason I'm not suspecting you of being the Cult Leader is because Tendronai did turn up non-culted however that could also be because he is self-aligned which may or may not make him immune to that.

OctoberRaven, because if the "real" Condatino family BG outed me as lying then obviously there'd be a dispute as to who the real one is. If you were to claim that I really am the Cult Leader then the "real" Condatino family BG would have EVERYTHING to gain from proving I'm a liar and eliminating his worst threat to his mafia family (yes even worse than town).
Edit: Also I helped give you (town) something Demetrius couldn't. Valuable information. I did just help take down the Cult of Personality (admittedly I had it down between B_real x2 and Doppler x2) but SS's information helped narrow the odds and DarthMauler believed my claim enough to use his powers to prove me right. I'm still willing to help find the remaining Cult Leader as well because they probably outnumber any of the remaining mafias. Plus as I pointed out earlier OctoberRaven, the Cult is growing, the mafia isn't; and I'm not going anywhere either.