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Unread 11-10-2014, 08:19 PM   #13151
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I gotta say independently of me being pretty sour about most of these updates I really am exceptionally fond of the John / Roxy pairing as an alternative to the sheer awfulness of John / Vriska, and so I'm glad the two are having bonding time, even if it's bonding as the only survivors in a fucked-up game session.
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Unread 11-10-2014, 08:25 PM   #13152
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Kinda off-topic, but was it ever explained what/who John's Dad is?

I mean, Rose's Mom is alt-universe Roxy, Bro is Dirk, Nana is Jane, and Jade's Grandpa Harley is Jake. So was Dad ever explained at all? I honestly don't remember.
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Unread 11-10-2014, 08:40 PM   #13153
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Kinda off-topic, but was it ever explained what/who John's Dad is?

I mean, Rose's Mom is alt-universe Roxy, Bro is Dirk, Nana is Jane, and Jade's Grandpa Harley is Jake. So was Dad ever explained at all? I honestly don't remember.
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Unread 11-10-2014, 08:58 PM   #13154
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Kinda off-topic, but was it ever explained what/who John's Dad is?

I mean, Rose's Mom is alt-universe Roxy, Bro is Dirk, Nana is Jane, and Jade's Grandpa Harley is Jake. So was Dad ever explained at all? I honestly don't remember.
Dad is just the biological son of Nana/Jane with some dude we never had the chance to see in any capacity.

In a weird way, he would biologically be more like John's brother. (Bro, on the flipside, would be Dave's biological father)
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Unread 11-19-2014, 03:58 AM   #13155
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Unread 11-21-2014, 08:20 AM   #13156
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This is an AU Jade?
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Unread 11-21-2014, 01:05 PM   #13157
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Unread 11-22-2014, 01:47 AM   #13158
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I suspect we're building towards a 'solution' to the problem wherein John (and possibly Roxy?) saves everyone by agreeing to some deal with his denizen wherein the AU becomes the new 'prime' universe, and our John joins the alternate universe cast, who all assume he's dead because the other John was executed by the denizen so our John could swap universes or some shit.

If what I typed above is actually true, by the way, it means we just wasted so many fucking Homestuck updates watching a doomed timeline. Why the fuck this whole experience couldn't have been summed up in a mere fraction of the time is utterly beyond me, especially since Hussie himself used that exact appropriate storytelling technique to shorten the narrative back when Terezi tricked John umpteen trillion years ago.
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Unread 11-22-2014, 02:11 AM   #13159
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It could just fast-forward after the universe-hop through John using future knowledge to prevent everything from happening. Basically the inverse of the Terezi/John scenario.
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Unread 11-22-2014, 02:27 AM   #13160
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It could just fast-forward after the universe-hop through John using future knowledge to prevent everything from happening. Basically the inverse of the Terezi/John scenario.
Yeah, but my aggravation with that possibility is that we've spent all this time getting to know versions of everyone-who's-not-John who are going to turn out to be irrelevant to the plot, and the 'new' versions of everyone else will be complete strangers. Who knows how differently some of these folks might be in a universe where they all assumed John had died in some freak accident for nearly three years? At the very least, Jade's bound to be a depressed shell of herself, stuck by herself for that time. And assuming there's any communication whatsoever between the traveling groups, everyone else will find out too, which probably won't positively effect Dave, Rose and Karkat.

And I mean, those are the versions of the characters that are ultimately worth getting to know. Just feels like a lot of wasted character development into versions of the characters who even John himself won't be impacted or affected by personally.
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