My Little Pony: Friendship is Mafia - Page 138

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 10-17-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Revolving Ocelot

I'm wondering if Karesh's bulletproof status is vulnerable to rpg's specific shtick. If he's telling the truth, the consequences could still be nasty.

I doubt it. I'm not immune or vulnerable to anything. I simply cannot be targetted by anypony. At all.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 10-17-2011, 07:10 PM

Wait a minute then it can't be me/Fluttershy because RPG can't target me in the first place. Unless I'm reading too deeply and it means immunity to the effects of being targeted.

Aldurin · 10-17-2011, 07:25 PM

I think it means effects at you can't be targeted, the cockatrice approach to flip town seems like a gray area that favors the targeting bypass.

rpgdemon · 10-17-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sifright

Fair enough, but I don't know that you are telling the truth. If you night kill me it still makes Karesh ambiguous if RO isn't the PO.

Edit: Also the mafia will kill either yourself or RO if he is actually the PO your both just as dangerous as each other given your ability to give town an extra kill a day.

If I night kill anyone who I say I won't, go ahead and lynch me.

As a thing that I thought of, if whoever we lynch of the two that RO says are scum flips town, I will go for RO, unless someone can give me good reason not to.

Right now, how I'm treating the situation is acting as Vig, until there are no scum left, and I'll then approach Karesh, or whoever else seems the best possible choice. He makes a good point about being untargettable, since that means that I probably wouldn't be able to approach him, and it would likely be someone else.

I'd suggest that Greg blocks the Don, and if I kill someone who I say I won't, lynch me then, but my views are biased.

IHateMakingNames · 10-17-2011, 07:33 PM

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until there are no scum left,

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scum

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13. rpgdemon

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I am The Cockatrice... Town-aligned.

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I am The Cockatrice, Wild Creature, Self... aligned.

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first

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If I do make an approach and get it right, I flip townie, and become another Vig.

Aldurin · 10-17-2011, 07:38 PM

ok, so IHMN wants you to flip before you go for the scum. Thing is I don't think he'll actually turn on us if he can flip to town, and if anything he would want to last longer so bringing a mafia victory sooner would be bad.

rpgdemon · 10-17-2011, 08:36 PM

Flipping before going for scum doesn't make sense, logistically. It means that we skip a kill on scum, to prove something that doesn't matter. If I spend tonight flipping, and I get killed overnight, I'm town aligned but dead, and no scum were hit. If I spend tonight killing someone who we know to be scum, but don't flip, the scum are hit, but I don't get to be town aligned.

It'll hurt the town if I flip tonight, since we miss out on a hit on scum. The only thing it hurts if I don't flip tonight are my chances at hitting any victory condition, since if I get killed pre-flip, I'll still be self aligned. Whether I flip tonight or tomorrow doesn't make any impact on my actions, since I'm going to be playing for the eventual flip, as there's no way I'll be the last one standing now.

IHateMakingNames · 10-17-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon

Flipping before going for scum doesn't make sense, logistically. It means that we skip a kill on scum, to prove something that doesn't matter. If I spend tonight flipping, and I get killed overnight, I'm town aligned but dead, and no scum were hit. If I spend tonight killing someone who we know to be scum, but don't flip, the scum are hit, but I don't get to be town aligned.

It'll hurt the town if I flip tonight, since we miss out on a hit on scum. The only thing it hurts if I don't flip tonight are my chances at hitting any victory condition, since if I get killed pre-flip, I'll still be self aligned. Whether I flip tonight or tomorrow doesn't make any impact on my actions, since I'm going to be playing for the eventual flip, as there's no way I'll be the last one standing now.

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lynch

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22. Oron

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night

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Karesh really is fluttershy, if you truly have the ability to join town go visit karesh.

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day

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lynch

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6. greed

Sifright · 10-18-2011, 03:46 AM

Simple answer to this. If RO turns out to be lying rpgdemon should night kill him. If not Rpgdemon should night kill greed after that we can decide what to do the next day.

Ravashak · 10-18-2011, 10:57 AM

This is some theorizing based on the assumption that Oron is in fact the mafia don.

Just curious, but does a role-block on a mafia member stop the kill if there's more than one member (keeping possibilities open)? I'd assume it'd only work if it's the last member and/or the designated killer.

Under this assumption, I think we should roleblock greed and have rpgdemon convert to town this night. The flavor that we'll get should give some info, if the kill was stopped, i'd assume that greed's the last mafia member, who we can then lynch at our leasure the next day. However, if the kill goes through, there's probably still another mafia member hiding.

The other options is that a mafia kill can't be stopped at all, in that case, if rpgdemon decided to kill greed in the night, we'd be at an impasse. At that point we wouldn't be sure whether there's still someone we should lynch, but the game can't be over 'cause there's still a self-aligned character in the game.
So I think rpgdemon should convert to town tonight, that way, we'll have a course of action for tomorrow set already.

10-17-2011, 08:36 PM	#1377
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	Flipping before going for scum doesn't make sense, logistically. It means that we skip a kill on scum, to prove something that doesn't matter. If I spend tonight flipping, and I get killed overnight, I'm town aligned but dead, and no scum were hit. If I spend tonight killing someone who we know to be scum, but don't flip, the scum are hit, but I don't get to be town aligned. It'll hurt the town if I flip tonight, since we miss out on a hit on scum. The only thing it hurts if I don't flip tonight are my chances at hitting any victory condition, since if I get killed pre-flip, I'll still be self aligned. Whether I flip tonight or tomorrow doesn't make any impact on my actions, since I'm going to be playing for the eventual flip, as there's no way I'll be the last one standing now. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

10-18-2011, 10:57 AM	#1380
Ravashak hm? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South of the Sewer Posts: 286	This is some theorizing based on the assumption that Oron is in fact the mafia don. Just curious, but does a role-block on a mafia member stop the kill if there's more than one member (keeping possibilities open)? I'd assume it'd only work if it's the last member and/or the designated killer. Under this assumption, I think we should roleblock greed and have rpgdemon convert to town this night. The flavor that we'll get should give some info, if the kill was stopped, i'd assume that greed's the last mafia member, who we can then lynch at our leasure the next day. However, if the kill goes through, there's probably still another mafia member hiding. The other options is that a mafia kill can't be stopped at all, in that case, if rpgdemon decided to kill greed in the night, we'd be at an impasse. At that point we wouldn't be sure whether there's still someone we should lynch, but the game can't be over 'cause there's still a self-aligned character in the game. So I think rpgdemon should convert to town tonight, that way, we'll have a course of action for tomorrow set already. __________________ Varjojen virta Kuolemaa kuljettaa Maa on harmaa Syd�n poissa taas

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10-17-2011, 07:25 PM	#1373
Aldurin Lakitu Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,648	I think it means effects at you can't be targeted, the cockatrice approach to flip town seems like a gray area that favors the targeting bypass.

10-17-2011, 07:38 PM	#1376
Aldurin Lakitu Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,648	ok, so IHMN wants you to flip before you go for the scum. Thing is I don't think he'll actually turn on us if he can flip to town, and if anything he would want to last longer so bringing a mafia victory sooner would be bad.

10-18-2011, 03:46 AM	#1379
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	Simple answer to this. If RO turns out to be lying rpgdemon should night kill him. If not Rpgdemon should night kill greed after that we can decide what to do the next day.