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Unread 06-02-2006, 07:34 AM   #161
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Well, Edgemaster, I know you use the excuse of unknowing of the game, BUT that really is no excuse.

Lack of experience should not defy rational logic and letting it pass off on the sole purpose of "Noobishness" is just plain ignorance.

For the most we know, you could actually be a very experienced player in real life and are using your lack of forum time and appearances in OUR forum's games as your guise.

I'll not condemn you yet, but PLEASE do not let this be the case again, as I for one will not let it pass easily.


Now, we have all agreed that not lynching is a serious waste of time and should never take place unless it is in demanding circumstances. I'll force a decision of my own early and Vote: B_Real Shadows solely off his lack of defense.

If you want my proof on this, just demand it. But, I'm hoping everyone sees my point or can go look it over.

From what I can tell, he's using this Math to make himself seem more useful and pull the attention off of him. As, I don't see anyone bringing up the past since. (Even though there has been a lack of activity lately concerning WHO to lynch).

Now, I'm hoping this vote will ALSO speed the game up a bit more and cause a bit more discussion over WHO to vote, not why not to vote as that is already established several fold.

So, someone disagree with me or bring some new point to light. I'm rather enjoying this.
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Unread 06-02-2006, 08:10 AM   #162
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I sure do hope I get a last word, because I am using it now!

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I was going to vote for catlover because my gut told me too. Bastards.
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Unread 06-02-2006, 08:20 AM   #163
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Now, we have all agreed that not lynching is a serious waste of time and should never take place unless it is in demanding circumstances. I'll force a decision of my own early and Vote: B_Real Shadows solely off his lack of defense.

If you want my proof on this, just demand it. But, I'm hoping everyone sees my point or can go look it over.

From what I can tell, he's using this Math to make himself seem more useful and pull the attention off of him. As, I don't see anyone bringing up the past since. (Even though there has been a lack of activity lately concerning WHO to lynch).

Now, I'm hoping this vote will ALSO speed the game up a bit more and cause a bit more discussion over WHO to vote, not why not to vote as that is already established several fold.

So, someone disagree with me or bring some new point to light. I'm rather enjoying this.
Lack of defense is no reason to hang someone. Actually, this is kind of the opposite of why people are voting for you. Overly defensive. (Yes, I'm aware of why you defended yourself early, but really, I think you are far too clever by half to draw attention to yourself like that.) Also, making that elaborate post wouldn't draw attention away from him, it would direct it to him. And the only one who really has been bringing up the past is you I'd say. I don't buy "well I was a threat so many times, this time surely I couldn't be" defense. Even if you never actually came out and said it, it was implied.

Of course CmP was in some ways the one that got that Mesden accusation ball running. As a joke of course. (Something I think he is too smart to do as well.)

Hmmmm, I was suspicous of him before, and now I'm also suspicous of you as well.

One, or both of you, are acting extremely peculiar.

Based on your responses, I'll probably end up voting for one of you, as I have no better leads at the moment. I don't actually expect anyone else to, though, as you are highly respected players.

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Unread 06-02-2006, 10:11 AM   #164
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Actually TWG, that is very sound reasoning. Unfortunately, I get very paranoid when someone else says something that would convince me rather than just them saying something I already agree with... I think that's the reason I have some weird gut feeling about CmP and Mesden. Ick, no wonder it's so hard for me to figure things out.
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Unread 06-02-2006, 11:07 AM   #165
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Lack of defense is no reason to hang someone. Actually, this is kind of the opposite of why people are voting for you. Overly defensive. (Yes, I'm aware of why you defended yourself early, but really, I think you are far too clever by half to draw attention to yourself like that.) Also, making that elaborate post wouldn't draw attention away from him, it would direct it to him. And the only one who really has been bringing up the past is you I'd say. I don't buy "well I was a threat so many times, this time surely I couldn't be" defense. Even if you never actually came out and said it, it was implied.
Uh huh. Not defending one's self against two accusers with viable points I do consider suspicious. Also, I've been dangerously close to voting for him this whole time. I believe I stated it before CmP actually voted. He vote before even getting a response and then, once accused, never really replied to those accusations aside from the "You'll see once I die" ploy. Which I will remind you has been most lynched mafiate's last action.

Now, the elaborate post is seen as a helpful thing, am I right to say this? Yes, he would get attention, but in a positive light rather than the negative that he was under not so long ago. I'll take this and every other stated point as enough reason to vote for him.

Now for my defenses.

Well, as far as the "This many times" thing, I blatantly said that it was random and that everyone had the same chance, debunking that myself. Now, who said bringing attention was a bad thing? I consider it a valuable point as MORE people look at you when you say something. Hear you out more.

You think it well to keep out of the limelight, I jump head in. It may be the fact(And this will always be true, no matter what my allignment) that I DO think as a mafiate, or atleast MY version of a mafiate. I refer you to my Inexperienced Mafia post to reassure this.

I'm quite the unorthodox player, as you have seen. My plan of attack and defense has never been the same, no matter the game. I'll say this keeps true as of now, because I never became the catalystic persona before.

I WANTED my starting post to turn on the spotlights, so to say. I like a fast game with activity and I KNEW it needed a catalyst to get off the ground. I took it upon myself to do this and defend myself at the same time. To me, this is reasonable.

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Of course CmP was in some ways the one that got that Mesden accusation ball running. As a joke of course. (Something I think he is too smart to do as well.)
Heh, well, I can't agree with that seeing as I intentionally got it rolling. Again, this would just be tedious to say it again.

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Hmmmm, I was suspicous of him before, and now I'm also suspicous of you as well.
Good, I love accusations and doubt placed on me. It gets me on my toes and lets me have fun. Keep em coming, people. I'm here all day and I will respond with the same bravado I always have.

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One, or both of you, are acting extremely peculiar.

Based on your responses, I'll probably end up voting for one of you, as I have no better leads at the moment. I don't actually expect anyone else to, though, as you are highly respected players.

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No no no no no. Being respected has nothing to do with it and should never. Unless you know for a fact our role, than we should have the same position as others, only altered by our performance IN this game.

Now, I've already casted my doubt on CmP. He has been pseudo on my side this entire time. ESPECIALLY with the "Don't vote Mesden! This is a joke!" That aroused my suspicion quickly and then his defense of me just kept getting on my nerves.

But, my vote for B_Real is the fact that my accusations go unattended. Therefore, my suspicion was never put to rest in the slightest and it has been pushed by his last act of "Helping".

Take this as you will. He's deserved my vote until I'm convinced otherwise.
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Unread 06-02-2006, 11:25 AM   #166
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here's each and every single one of the posts I made in this thread.

51, 65, 67, 71, 77, 83, 88, 92, 106, 119, 129, 147, 153, 156,
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92 is the only post which could POSSIBLY be seen as me implying that "kill me and you shall see" but that was not intended as it was more of a "kill me, And I'll tell ya how I played this so maybe you can see if it can help you or not"
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Unread 06-02-2006, 01:36 PM   #167
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You think it well to keep out of the limelight, I jump head in. It may be the fact(And this will always be true, no matter what my allignment) that I DO think as a mafiate, or atleast MY version of a mafiate. I refer you to my Inexperienced Mafia post to reassure this.
Mes, thinking as a mafiate will never help the town.

You have never been the one to stay in the background though. When most mafiates are posting less you are posting more. That's no indication of anything because that is just how you roll. Also, I don't think B_Real has done anything to merit a vote. Not defending yourself isn't really a good enough reason to lynch someone. You may just be trying to move the vote along but you are not going to get support with just a "he isn't defending himself good enough" vote.

I think the only reason B_Real used the "you will regret it" plea is because he thinks he has a new way of playing the game that will help us. Weather it will work or not I don't know.

I'm sticking with my FOS of CMP and Catlover and adding Mes to it.
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Unread 06-02-2006, 01:57 PM   #168
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The hell...? I'm still in this? Seriously, not only have I not played this at all, I don't even know how to play this.

Please. Kill me.
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Unread 06-02-2006, 01:59 PM   #169
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Well, B_Real continous to act (in my opinion) suspicious, and I just want to get this on the record now.

Vote: B_real_shadows
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Unread 06-02-2006, 02:04 PM   #170
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