Nothing is as it Seems Mafia: The Game

[h4x.m4g3]

Originally Posted by Zilla

And I renew my vote: h4x.m4g3 due to possible self-alignment/survivor-alignment as opposed to town-aligned.

Even though at this point it's dumb to bet on scum, any non-town is better than town.

Edit: that sounds confusing, so I mean to say lynching non-town is better than lynching town, even though it's likely the survivor isn't throwing in his hat with scum

FoS: Zilla

What is with this insistence that I'm not town-alligned. Is it based soley on the color my name was? As I stated and Fenris confirmed my role cannot and will never officially reveal me, I'm NOT Pink Bunny, I don't have a super "You just get access to my brain power" role that makes me immune to everything with GM confirmed role reveal. I'm just unlynchable. Fenris has said he just tried to pick an unused color, not my allignment color which would be this.

Which makes me wonder, why would any townie , knowingly waste a day, lynching the already proven unlychable guy. But I'm just not getting the full on scum vibe from you, so I'm withholding my vote.

[DarthMauler64]

I hate midterms. Not more than I hate Physics though. Unless its a Physics midterm...

I am still on the fence about Jen. She did have some flavor back up.
Question: Does the Vengeful power kill someone during the day? or is it night? or both?

I am less suspicious of Brock than I was earlier, just from the bluntness of basically saying "I'm not mafia" and not trying to explain it. I am don't completely trust him though.

I am still curious as to what Roy has been doing these nights. The Impersonator seems to act like a one time bodyguard, and I'm confused as to why he didn't protect secretskull.

I guess Demonlink still doesn't know he is in the game. He is active still active elsewhere though. Demonlink can you help us out?

Also ever so slightly suspicious of Zilla, from the h4x thing, but its not enough to worry me right now.

I guess for now Jen and Brock are the two people I'm most suspicious of.
For now:

Vote: Brock

This will likely change, but for now my gut tells me to do this. That "If I roleclaim I will definitely die" still confuses me. If he was the last mason, that means he basically has no power. If he was a special mason, he could have just said "I'm a normal mason".

Also, I saw that on the first day that Jen voted for SithDarth, and then recently voted for Moogle. This isn't that strong of evidence though, but its at least some.

[Fenris]

Ryanderman's taking over for Demonlink.

[Ryanderman]

Not that I'll last long, but I'll do what I can.

So to restate what's been said cause that's what I do here's again the list of who's alive:

05. bananarama
29. DarthMauler64
33. Ryanderman II
36. Zilla II
38. h4x.m4g3
39. Brock Samson
42. Pink Bunny
43. Roy_D_Mylote
47. Jeneralissimo
Red are those who are not confirmed town aligned. Yellow are those that pretty much are.

-DarthMauler64 is mostly GM confirmed by his action as mayor earlier in the game

-I am PO confirmed by secretskull

-Zilla II is confirmed by the other members of the militia when they were still alive

-Pink Bunny is flat out GM confirmed

-Roy_D_Mylote is PO confirmed by secretskull

There's really no point in voting for or FOSing the five of us. As for the other four:

-bananarama, as has been pointed out, was heavily targeted for lynching by the culted Condatinos, and thus is not likely the last member of their family. But knowing what they tried to pull already, it is possible they purposely attacked him, with no intention of actually succeeding in lynching him. But then again, he did repeatedly accuse the Condatinos of being cult. I can't see them including that as part of their plan.

-hax mage did survive a lynch, so he is confirmed in that ability, but it could easily be a mafiate role. Fortunately, we can lynch him now if he is mafia, as it has been implied by Fenris that a mafiate loses him power when he becomes Don. If that's not the case, then hax mage cannot be mafia, as we'd already be screwed.

-Brock Samson is definitely a mason. But he could also be a mason traitor, his claims of "I'm town aligned and you should all believe me merely because I say so" not withstanding. The problem with that is that it wouldn't be consistent on Fenris's part. Mason traitor isn't really a role you can give up when you become Don without pretty much giving yourself away.

-Jeneralissimo, as far as I know, has absolutely no confirmation of her role, besides her word. Which again, despite her protestations otherwise is not above reproach. Even if she really is the hair trigger, it would make a perfect mafiate role.


The way I see it, the mafiate is the only one left with a night kill. And there are 8+1 of us left. Which means if we lynch someone every day, we have three lynches left before the lone mafiate is half the population.

I'd rather lynch Jen today, Hax tomorrow, and Brock the last day. But it really doesn't matter what order we lynch, as much as it does which three we lynch. And since the tide seems to be leaning slightly towards Brock,

Vote: Brock Samson

But if he's not the mafiate, I vote for lynching Jen tomorrow.

Oh, and if what I wrote doesn't make much sense, it's because it's 3 in the morning after a series of long days and I'm really dead tired.

[h4x.m4g3]

While I agree with most of what you say Ryanderman I have only I small adjustment I'd like to make.

Originally Posted by Ryanderman

-DarthMauler64 is mostly GM confirmed by his action as mayor earlier in the game

While DarthMauler64 indeed had a one time force vote use, but never where he was undeniably confirmed as town (unless I missed it), if we are going to say everyone who isn't PO/GM confirmed could be a mafia with a confirmed power. I'd like to keep DathMauler on that list.
Also
Vote:Brock

[Zilla]

Sorry for not posting in a bit.

Here's my summary:

Bananarama, too town oriented to be scum. Just flat out.

Jen, story checks out, explains why one person died (I can't remember who), and generally not anti-town.

Brock, could be scum, could be misguided townie. Either way, I'm going to say he hasn't been on top of his game here. However, he was far too absent to account for the events that were happening.

h4x, isn't dead yet. This is highly suspicious. If he's unlynchable, the mafia would want to finish off a confirmed townie, and would have killed him at night. Not to mention the suspiciousness I already pointed out, since in most games, a failed lynch still reveals the full role and alignment of the lynched.

[h4x.m4g3]

Originally Posted by Zilla

h4x, isn't dead yet. This is highly suspicious. If he's unlynchable, the mafia would want to finish off a confirmed townie, and would have killed him at night. Not to mention the suspiciousness I already pointed out, since in most games, a failed lynch still reveals the full role and alignment of the lynched.

Right good point, here's the thing I'm only partly confirmed, everyone is still suspicious of me, my role's power is in no way a threat, and the people who have been dieing are confirmed townies (militia) with powers that could harm/reveal the remaining mafia.

In other words if its suspicious that I'm alive, it's even more suspicious you're alive. But your confirmed militia so unless the last mafia is a militia traitor (which I'm trying not to consider.)

[Ryanderman]

It's not really suspicious that Zilla is still alive, it just hasn't been her turn to die yet. She's probably the mafiate's target tonight, as he's been systematically killing off the militia for the past few nights.

[h4x.m4g3]

Originally Posted by Ryanderman

It's not really suspicious that Zilla is still alive, it just hasn't been her turn to die yet. She's probably the mafiate's target tonight, as he's been systematically killing off the militia for the past few nights.

Which is my point (perhaps badly put). Given the circumstances, everyone is a target for the last remaining target. So why is it that me being alive is suspicious?

[Brock Samson]

I'm sorry, have there been other traitor roles? Did I do anything to raise suspicion against my fellow masons? I supported them and tried to not get them lynched. I'm town folks. You all agree that I am the last mason, that part is for certain, but then why are you bandwagonning on me so hard? There are plenty of more suspicious folks out there, and the main reasoning against me is that I could be a traitor mason. Give me a break.