Army officer kills 12 at Ft. Hood, TX

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris

Your mom's friend is mistaken, or had some shitty experience with Psychiatrists.

A Psychiatrist, or Sociologist, is given schooling on methods for coping with anger, grief, and a number of other painful emotions, and they help find outlets for those feelings. While there is no 'fix everything' wand, it's a career of helping others that I am still considering going back to school for. Not everyone can benefit from a sociologist, but anyone who's ever sat and just confided in someone, and felt better afterwards, can tell you there's a big benefit in the career.

Psychiatry, psychology, and sociology are three different professional areas. Psychiatrists have a degree in both psychology and medicine, and can prescribe medications to patients. They deal with the people who have treatable mental disorders. Psychologists don't have a medical degree and end up being things like counselors, social workers, and private practice non-pill-prescribing shrinks. Sociologists are what one could think of as "social psychiatrists" and do not have a focus on individuals nearly as much as how multiple individuals interact.

I mean, as long as we're talking jargon, I'd just like to have my set of terms defined from my own education and my brother's. Maybe it's a bit different in Canada, but those are the terms I'm familiar with.



That all said, the person I quoted said "psychologist" off the bat, which I'll admit confused me a bit. A look back at the article says he's a psychiatrist, which is a bit different than I was assuming with that post. So, my bad.


Edit: Snap! Ninja'd by POS.

[Nikose Tyris]

Originally Posted by POS Industries

Everything about this is wrong.

What you're describing is psychotherapy, which is different from psychiatry (a medical field that deals primarily with things like neurochemical disorders), sociology (which is the study of social interactions in communities), and psychology (which focuses on internalized behavioral functions). With the exception of sociology, these things tend to work hand-in-hand with the treatment of patients and naturally share some commonalities, but they are far from one and the same.

Fair enough. The woman I went to referred to herself as a Sociologist, but I can admit to being wrong.

[Donomni]

Originally Posted by Bob the Mercenary

Been also following this all day. The people who are taking the guy's last name and insinuating terrorism are going down an irresponsible and dangerous road. I hope they can restrain themselves until a full investigation is carried out.

My mom already said "He's Muslim."

It's not even something I argue about anymore: My family is as stubborn as a concrete wall. -__-;

[Yumil]

Originally Posted by bluestarultor

That all said, the person I quoted said "psychologist" off the bat, which I'll admit confused me a bit. A look back at the article says he's a psychiatrist, which is a bit different than I was assuming with that post. So, my bad.


Edit: Snap! Ninja'd by POS.

Sorry, Ill edit it. Dont know why I said that at the start, since I did say the correct word on the next sentence.

[Magus]

I believe the reason that the terrorism theory was given creedence (other than his name sounds Arabic, of course, as some people will knee-jerk that way) is initially two other people were reported as being held as suspects in the shooting, as if they had worked in tandem. I'm pretty sure at this point the only person being held is Hassan, which points to it just being the case of a psychotic, murderous breakdown, not a terror plot as such.

Hopefully everything is delineated clearly tomorrow.

[Aerozord]

what I find odd is he used non-military issued weapons. Mostly because this confuses me as to why, when you literally have a vast variety of weapons around you, you still opt to smuggle in outside ones. If you intend to go on a murderous rampage doesn't the military have the best stuff for that?

[Magus]

That kind of stuff is tightly controlled in weapons lockers and so forth, I'd suspect. It might be literally easier to smuggle in a weapon than to get one out of weapon storage. Basically for his duties there would be no reason for him to have access to weapons on a day-to-day basis so it's unlikely he could use military weapons at all to do this.

[Azisien]

Originally Posted by Donomni

My mom already said "He's Muslim."

It's not even something I argue about anymore: My family is as stubborn as a concrete wall. -__-;

Then it's not just your mom failing...

[Funka Genocide]

Originally Posted by Azisien

Then it's not just your mom failing...

yeah it kinda is. He said anymore, he's tried. He was unsuccessful. Can't change people that don't want to change. Can't make people want to change.

People are responsible for their own decisions, not for the decisions of others. At best you can provide your honest estimation when asked in this situation. This situation being people who are willfully prejudiced. It kind of sucks when it's your family, but there's really no obligation to go around proselytizing with The One Truth.

Not saying that you can't do just that, or that I haven't myself, just that from a purely success based standpoint it's useless. People will just ignore you or worse. Only real way to force change would be by force, and I mean nobody wants to beat their mother into compliance. (and in any case that sort of enforcement typically loses efficacy when the immediate threat of violence is removed, I guess there's always brainwashing but that's far too labor intensive and requires too much control over another person's life to be effectively implemented in a typical family setting from the vantage point of a child, parents on the other hand have carte blanche to employ such methods and often times find success.)

Beating one's head against the proverbial wall might be considered noble, but it's not going to garner much useful effect.

[Bob The Mercenary]

Okay, maybe it did have something to do with it. Just heard a report that the shooter shouted "allah akbar" before starting his rampage. Of course this hasn't been confirmed yet.