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Unread 06-22-2010, 05:57 AM   #11
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No Rage gained from moves that cost Rage. This includes moves that are used when in Paradigm Shift and other modes like Maid to Mistress.

And sure, you could do that. All I really read is the orange list. If you want me to see something else, you've gotta lemme know.
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Unread 06-22-2010, 06:01 AM   #12
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Oh, I see.
Damn, pokebrids are so getting shafted. Ah well, I won't complain. Yet.

Edit: Nevermind that, they aren't really, are they? They get a huge range of attacks, pretty good stats and an uber-form. Not to mention a pretty good selection of Synctechs. They're balanced.

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Unread 06-22-2010, 06:07 AM   #13
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Not really shafted. What would you rather have, one Hyper Beam and 10 Rage or two Hyper Beams?
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Unread 06-22-2010, 06:17 AM   #14
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Aw, hell. Is there really no way to give 'em fourth evolutions without turning them into Berserk monsters?

Because, you know, I could probably come up with some bullshit to justify it if you'd let me.

Or not. I can develop their characters either way. But the evolutions I was thinking of just seemed fitting.

Anyway, Harliette is on fire again. We're probably going to need Moon to put her out. And maybe he should also construct a Water Evolith. Or a Power Amplifier. And we should also probably put Kurika out too. She could single-handedly eliminate Snorlax and Flygon, probably.

Do we have Wilhelmina target the enemy sniper? Two fire shots ought to take the bastard down. Gem, maybe we should keep Impact out for three turns. That way, he can return fully healed of Plasmaburn and with 100 RPs. He could use Dark Ambition or C,C&C with Rayleen to let everyone bring the pain. As for Renny... I think the only item he's got left is a Max Revive? We could have him use Prosperous Gifts and revive, say, Kingdra, Swampert, Nidoqueen and Magnezone. But then he'd be left out of items and we still have one more fight ahead of us.

Of course, there's another alternative. We could forget all that and just have Lexhur use his laser. That would destroy Soldier B and both tanks, and then we'd be left with just Soldier A and the two enemy pokemon. Then we don't really have to worry about reviving anyone all that much. We revive Pierce's Kingdra, and then Moon, Pierce and the Water Evolith can put out Harliette and Kurika. Then we beat the living shit out of the three unlucky survivors.

EDIT: Why did Future Shock end? It was on turn 4 and it's supposed to last a full five turns, I think.
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Unread 06-22-2010, 06:30 AM   #15
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Yah, see my edit.

As for the battle...
Ok, we took a few casualties, but nothing that seems very urgent. Harliette is on fire again, what else is new...

(Exact casualties:
Pierce:
Aria heavily wounded
Kingdra killed
Renny:
Magnemite down
Swampert down
Harliette:
Self great damage, burnt, on fire
Nidoqueen down.)

I'm thinking we should focus on killing the enemy infantry. The tanks really aren't a problem, Rachel and Lexhur can focus on keeping those out of battle... though on the other hand, the more we destroy, the more likely Wildfire is to face us in direct combat.

'fcourse, the question is... sunny day or rain? I'm not sure how much rain helps us in terms of defense, but water moves are still pretty central to this. On the other hand, fire might mean that we take even more damage from Wildfire's "look at me I'm a craaazy bitch" antics, while giving us a good damage boost against infantry. I haven't done the exact allocation, but it seems quit feasible that we could take out both soldiers and the sniper by the end of the turn, and heal up Impact and Harliette as well.
Drac, if you want to discuss who should give which orders, now is the time to do so.


Hey, AB, I forgot to ask: Do we get to restock items at the end of battle?


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In regards to Drac, what use would Impact's staying out longer have? He can full-restore himself next turn, he'd be in-battle with full rage and full health two turns sooner, at the cost of just one item. Unless you somehow want to get rid of Impact, but that's just inconceivable! Why would you possibly want that?

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Unread 06-22-2010, 07:11 AM   #16
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First off, read my post above yours.

Wildfire didn't really hurt us much this turn because she used up two actions to go Zero Mode and buff herself. If we use Sunny Day, I'm pretty sure she'll be kicking our asses to hell next turn.

So I say we stick with rain for now.

As for who should give orders. Well, we should do it the way we agreed before. Impact gives the basic outline and a few specifics. Renny and Pierce pick their own attacks and perhaps give a few specific commands like "Moon, use Surf to attack the tank twice" or "Harliette, sling some poison attacks at that soldier". Or something.
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Unread 06-22-2010, 07:24 AM   #17
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I'd be allright with that allocation. And I saw your post. See my edit.

Thing is, I'm not even sure if sunny day will affect Wildfire's attacks at all. Will it, AB?
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Unread 06-22-2010, 07:35 AM   #18
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It should.

And I forgot Impact was at 100 Rage. Nevermind that then, bring him in early and kick some ass.

By the way AB, Harliette was rendered immune to Plasmaburn thanks to Rachel, remember? So we really only have Kurika burned.
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Unread 06-22-2010, 08:24 AM   #19
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Wha? I totally understand Magnezone being knocked out... but Swampert? I don't agree...

Snorlax has a Special Attack of 65, which is pretty crappy, to point that a pokemon isn't considered a strong attacker even when using Hyper Beam a 150 power move and STAB. So it knocking out Swampert whose speciality aside from power is stamina seems absurd! Matt should be OHKOing nearly anything with his Hyper Beam then, since his special attack stat is so many orders higher than Snorlax.
It's the reason why Giga Impact was given to Snorlax, since after the change in the pokemon battle system where moves were divided by Attack/SpecialAttack/Status instead of element type (Such as all fire moves being special attack and all normal moves being Attack type), Snorlax who used to get high power from Hyper Beam in the old generations could not use Hyper Beam effectively due to it using his inferior special attack stat.
If it was Giga Impact, I could totally understand. But then Snorlax would be plasmaburned by the wall! I call cheat! I'd say Great, maybe Severe damage at most. *Pout*

And yeah, around the time that AB posts during the night and when Gem is active is around 2AM, and I'm in bed. Hence why I send the PMs to AB beforehand so he doesn't have to wait for me.

I admit, I forgot about the fire wall too, but I would not have allowed Kurika to attack through it! Renny is not happy that Pierce/Impact ordered her to rush through it and suffer those burns!

Like Drac said, Harriette shouldn't be burned due to Rachel's special ability. ^^:

Gem said that Impact would probably give Renny some of his items after the battle since Renny makes better use of them than he could.

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Do we have Wilhelmina target the enemy sniper? Two fire shots ought to take the bastard down.
I agree that she needs to take down the sniper, but if we're still in rainy weather, fire bullets will be weakened.

Anyhow, it's still early, so back to bed for me.

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Unread 06-22-2010, 01:15 PM   #20
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CURSE YOU TIMEZONES! CURSE YOU ALL!

Anyways,I'm still waiting for Hammond to charge up Sky Attack. Should Pike continue Thunder Spamming, or maybe try a discharge?

Also, I agree with Menarker about the Hyper Beam thing. If anything, change it so Snorlax used Giga Impact.
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