Breaking Bad Season 5 Sunday

[Lumenskir]

I wondered if Jesse might actually rat Walt out to Hank at some point and supply him with some hard evidence after he finds out what Walt did and after Hank has already started having suspicions.

My basic reasoning is that the BB universe clearly has a God/moral balance, where something bad happens to you after you do something bad. This has been applied to basically every character but Walt, not because we're meant to think what he's doing is right, but because he's been externalizing all of his comeuppances on others, primarily Hank and Jesse (but oh so much more on Jesse). His downfall coming from those two would be the most apt.

I also think that Mike probably has to die both for the moral retribution, but mostly because he's the only dampening factor on Walt at this point. Maybe I just like Mike too much, but as long as he's around I can't see things going pear-shaped enough to get to that flash forward within a year.

The cig thing could totally happen though...But yeah, I can totally see Walt doing that. It would all come together quite nicely.

My revelation was basically Chekov math: Ricin cig being stored for later use + Skyler smoking in earnest out of spite + Walt pushing her to the limit = Walt needing to kill Skyler in a way that would spite her back to prevent her from acting in response to his abuse.

[BloodyMage]

Originally Posted by Lumenskir

I also think that Mike probably has to die both for the moral retribution, but mostly because he's the only dampening factor on Walt at this point. Maybe I just like Mike too much, but as long as he's around I can't see things going pear-shaped enough to get to that flash forward within a year.

Although Jesse did just stop him from killing that woman after it seemed like she was trying to obstruct their business. Jesse might turn out to be right and might be acting like a moral fetter for Mike, but it's also possible that Jesse just doesn't want to get his hands dirty and it could backfire on them.

Originally Posted by Lumenskir

My revelation was basically Chekov math: Ricin cig being stored for later use + Skyler smoking in earnest out of spite + Walt pushing her to the limit = Walt needing to kill Skyler in a way that would spite her back to prevent her from acting in response to his abuse.

Although it might confuse his motivations a bit. Every thing he has ever done has been for his family, or so he says, and that's what helps him sleep at night. Even his argument with Skylar erupted from her trying to keep his kids away from him. To kill his wife to keep his kids would really confuse that motivation. I could still see it happening but I think it would be a moral event horizon for him. It would be a real moment of no return.

[Lumenskir]

Although it might confuse his motivations a bit. Every thing he has ever done has been for his family, or so he says, and that's what helps him sleep at night. Even his argument with Skylar erupted from her trying to keep his kids away from him. To kill his wife to keep his kids would really confuse that motivation. I could still see it happening but I think it would be a moral event horizon for him. It would be a real moment of no return.

I've been watching the series over again so my Dad can catch up to this season, and one of the things they keep hitting over and over is that Walt has been moving the finish line over and over until we get to the season premiere where the only 'justification' he has for continuing the cook is...he has to pay back Jesse (which he pretty much has to remind Jesse about). He's literally at the point where he's cooking because he wants to, not 'needs' to, and I think Skyler is going to get in the way of what he wants.

Also, I mentally put the over/under at two episodes for Landry killing again. This is why I need to memorialize my insights.

[Magus]

Man, Todd just got himself a raise.

[Lumenskir]

Man, Todd just got himself a raise.

Yeah, a raise of six feet. In the ground. More of a reverse raise, I'm thinking.

[Magus]

I like how Todd just dispenses with all the moral quandaries and rationalizations Walt and Jesse go through in their quest to sell life-destroying crystal meth to tens of thousands of people. He just shoots kids with no remorse. He's a breath of fresh air, honestly. He's like a young Mike Ehrmentraut.

[BloodyMage]

Well, he's not getting paid to moralise.

[Lumenskir]

[Magus]

Hahaha, Breaking Your Enthusiasm!

[Magus]

I think the best part of this week's episode was easily the most awkward dinner ever.