"I like the way you die, boy." - A thread for Django Unchained - Page 2

Professor Smarmiarty · 01-02-2013, 06:06 PM

I am secretly a high-ranking member of the Tea Party. We had advance screenings.

Lumenskir · 01-02-2013, 06:09 PM

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I haven't, and I won't.

But then how can you tell people what it's about then?

Because I've heard all of the caterwauling, but in reading reviews I'm seeing a lot of sentiments of people walking out of the movie horrified at the torture scenes and how little they actually helped anything, which makes it seem like the torture that is presented isn't a gleeful presentation but rather a "Look at what atrocities were done in the name of this mission."

Which, you know, makes me want to see the movie and develop my own opinion, rather than take McCain's word for it or whatever...almost like how I felt after seeing Spike Lee's hadn't-seen-the-movie tweets about Django Unchained (yes, back on topic, good going Lumenskir).

Professor Smarmiarty · 01-02-2013, 06:12 PM

No those people who said that are all blinded by their massive boners for commiting war crimes.
Cause I have seen it and it is atrocious. And all the reviews I have read have also agreed with me.
The film directly posits that torture was influential in catching Bin Laden and was necessary to protect America.

Here's the best review of it:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...e-bigelow-boal
This review is 100% accurate- I have sat through Salo, through Spit on your grave- this was worse.

Solid Snake · 01-02-2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumenskir

But then how can you tell people what it's about then?

This is silly reasoning.

We have entertainment journalists for a reason. If they do their jobs well, you can trust their judgments to avoid financially supporting endeavors that do not merit your financial support.

Based on your position, I should purchase the next Call of Duty -- despite anything I've heard about it -- because I can't possibly have an opinion on the title without "experiencing it for myself." That isn't so. I have opinions about lots of videogames I haven't played, and movies I haven't seen. Again, that's what journalists -- and other perspectives, ranging from experts whose opinions I value to friends I trust -- are for.

Lumenskir · 01-02-2013, 06:17 PM

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We have entertainment journalists for a reason. If they do their jobs well, you can trust their judgments to avoid financially supporting endeavors that do not merit your financial support.

Great job acknowledging the perspective of all of the entertainment journalists I'm relying on then!

Arhra · 01-02-2013, 06:31 PM

Since I've been to see The Hobbit and Les Miserable after Boxing Day, they for some reason decided to show the trailer for Zero Dark Thirty before both.

I have to say I find '~~based on~~ inspired by a true story' movies that come so soon on the heels of the real event distasteful at best. And, well, based on the trailer, it looked like propaganda trying to whitewash some very dubious acts. I have absolutely no interest in seeing it and am frankly baffled that it even exists.

Sooooo, how about that Django Unchained?

Lumenskir · 01-02-2013, 06:53 PM

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Ugh. My father hates Tarantino and yet he really wanted to watch Inglourious Basterds over Christmas because WORLD WAR TWO FILM. It's already unbearable watching films with him that he likes.

Seriously, how far into the opening talky scene did he get before exploding into Old Manium?

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Sooooo, how about that Django Unchained?

It's quite entertaining!

**Revising Ocelot** · 01-02-2013, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumenskir

Seriously, how far into the opening talky scene did he get before exploding into Old Manium?

I managed to pacify him with The Dam Busters. He didn't watch Basterds. Yet.

Kim · 01-03-2013, 03:52 AM

Django sounds like it uses slavery as another excuse to tell a story primarily focused around white people and that the black people in the film exist primarily to have violence done to them and nothing more.

Which isn't remotely surprising, given that it's written by a white dude who thinks being told there are certain character types he shouldn't write because he's white is The Real Racism.

Plenty of people who are not me have talked about this far better than I could.

Negative Thoughts
Discussion On the Film Between Varying Opinions
Positive Thoughts

I don't plan on seeing the film, but this isn't an attempt to dissuade others from seeing it. It's an attempt to introduce facets of discussion about the film current absent from the thread. I've seen a lot of people talk about this, mostly on Twitter thus sharing their thoughts is less convenient than the articles above, so I thought it too important to neglect here.

There ya go.

pochercoaster · 01-03-2013, 04:50 AM

Take my opinion with a grain of salt but I just saw it and it was basically a white saviour movie with Django as the sidekick. The most brutal violence was reserved for all the black characters most of whom barely received any characterization which IMO just objectified them- meanwhile the white saviour and the villain receive most of the screentime and dialogue. The women were objectified as fuck.

I don't really like Tarantino's movies, there's something narcissistic about them and I don't like how he uses violence. That's about all I got.

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Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	No those people who said that are all blinded by their massive boners for commiting war crimes. Cause I have seen it and it is atrocious. And all the reviews I have read have also agreed with me. The film directly posits that torture was influential in catching Bin Laden and was necessary to protect America. Here's the best review of it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...e-bigelow-boal This review is 100% accurate- I have sat through Salo, through Spit on your grave- this was worse. Last edited by Professor Smarmiarty; 01-02-2013 at 06:17 PM.

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Arhra Ara ara! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Neo Venezia Posts: 5,013	I have opinions let me tel you them Since I've been to see The Hobbit and Les Miserable after Boxing Day, they for some reason decided to show the trailer for Zero Dark Thirty before both. I have to say I find '~~based on~~ inspired by a true story' movies that come so soon on the heels of the real event distasteful at best. And, well, based on the trailer, it looked like propaganda trying to whitewash some very dubious acts. I have absolutely no interest in seeing it and am frankly baffled that it even exists. Sooooo, how about that Django Unchained? __________________ This post is a good source of Ara ara, ufufu.* *These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This post is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.

01-03-2013, 03:52 AM	#19
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	Django sounds like it uses slavery as another excuse to tell a story primarily focused around white people and that the black people in the film exist primarily to have violence done to them and nothing more. Which isn't remotely surprising, given that it's written by a white dude who thinks being told there are certain character types he shouldn't write because he's white is The Real Racism. Plenty of people who are not me have talked about this far better than I could. Negative Thoughts Discussion On the Film Between Varying Opinions Positive Thoughts I don't plan on seeing the film, but this isn't an attempt to dissuade others from seeing it. It's an attempt to introduce facets of discussion about the film current absent from the thread. I've seen a lot of people talk about this, mostly on Twitter thus sharing their thoughts is less convenient than the articles above, so I thought it too important to neglect here. There ya go. __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy

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01-02-2013, 06:06 PM	#11
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	I am secretly a high-ranking member of the Tea Party. We had advance screenings.

01-03-2013, 04:50 AM	#20
pochercoaster rollerpocher tycoon Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,808	Take my opinion with a grain of salt but I just saw it and it was basically a white saviour movie with Django as the sidekick. The most brutal violence was reserved for all the black characters most of whom barely received any characterization which IMO just objectified them- meanwhile the white saviour and the villain receive most of the screentime and dialogue. The women were objectified as fuck. I don't really like Tarantino's movies, there's something narcissistic about them and I don't like how he uses violence. That's about all I got.