Soldiers of Light: Mafia

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Newb

Do you have any idea how supremely self-defeating that would be for the Don to order a hit on a mafiate?

Maybe the Don hates TWG. *shrugs* I'm saying that it could be something. Not saying that it is.

And the only reason it's different than the first game is that it happened at night, and not at day.

[IOWACJE]

Originally Posted by TheSpacePope

So it may be iowa, Newbs spreadsheet might make him a target, however the mafia knows that we are ALL keeping track, so would that make Newb more dangerous than any of us that are paying attention?
that's kind of fishy that you'd plant that thought there.
Not fingering (giggle) you just wondering why you think that Newb is the main target, spreadsheet aside.

You know, I kind of thought that would bring mafia questions my way after I said that.

What I was doing was more or less advising Newb to post it soon.
Newb, like you are considering, you should post your list before the next deadline. Just update it though, and keep posting it after every deadline you survive. Maybe it will help us, I don't know. =/

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by IOWACJE

You know, I kind of thought that would bring mafia questions my way after I said that.

What I was doing was more or less advising Newb to post it soon.
Newb, like you are considering, you should post your list before the next deadline. Just update it though, and keep posting it after every deadline you survive. Maybe it will help us, I don't know. =/

Actually, don't. That's what got me killed last game.

I was "too helpful" so I must have been a mafiate.

[The Wandering God]

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

Yes, like the PO or the Vig, which you clearly are not either. And you are not known to be a mafiate. For all we know, the Mafia ordered a hit on a member.

Maybe you pissed off your don.

Maybe you're a cultist. You seem waaaaay too focused on SK to be keeping your options open, which is much more useful than focusing on one person, unless you are 100% sure of their guilt.

And I, based on past events, believe you're guilty.

Vote: The_Wandering_God

Yes, I am known not to be mafiate. Go back and read Mesden's post. The five members I saw in the town square.

Based on what past events?

On to SK

Originally Posted by Silly Kitty

Because, Darth mauler made a simple innocent mistake and I did something similar so I just felt a better connection with that.

The vig and the imposter.

Some people have hidden in day light before. I'm sorry for suggesting you could be the CL. I just didn't want everyone to completely rule you out because you could be the CL. I could be the CL. Anyone could be the CL.

First off, basing any decisions on "feelings" is wrong. For one, they are totally unreliable. Second, they are much easier to be manipulated by the mafia.

The imposter is NOT a townie. They win when they are the last one left. Remember the purple text?

But there was no need to go slinging around accusations about me being the CL. The only reason to do so would be to throw doubt on the townies about me. But it woulnd't drum up enough for a lynch. But it would be enough to sway the BG. Whom I owe my life too. And probably will die if they decide to switch to someone else.

However, Silly Kitty. Your responses to my accusations seem... genuine. Whereas Fenris seems to have gone off the deep end.

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

Actually, don't. That's what got me killed last game.

I was "too helpful" so I must have been a mafiate.

So you are saying we shouldn't try and help each other. Even if one of us is lynched, as long as the temple is worth more than me, you, and any one else.

And if you couldn't defend yourself out of being too helpful, why should that stop other people?

Unvote: Silly Kitty
Vote: FenrisWolf
Reasons: First off, trying to vote for someone who is known not to be a mafiate or imposter, second, you are saying it's something with your vote Fenris, third, suggesting that we don't focus on one person at a time. That leads to confusion and a situation to where a good mafia team can sway it to hit more innocents.

The Wandering God

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

So you are saying we shouldn't try and help each other. Even if one of us is lynched, as long as the temple is worth more than me, you, and any one else.

I'm saying that people view being too helpful as suspicious and trying to act unmafiate.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

And if you couldn't defend yourself out of being too helpful, why should that stop other people?

Because I don't want townies to die.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

Yes, I am known not to be mafiate. Go back and read Mesden's post. The B]five[/B] members I saw in the town square.

I stand corrected.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

Based on what past events?

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

You seem waaaaay too focused on SK to be keeping your options open, which is much more useful than focusing on one person, unless you are 100% sure of their guilt.

That.

Now, care to tell me how I'm flying off the deep end?

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

Reasons: First off, trying to vote for someone who is known not to be a mafiate or imposter, second, you are saying it's something with your vote Fenris, third, suggesting that we don't focus on one person at a time. That leads to confusion and a situation to where a good mafia team can sway it to hit more innocents.

1. I'm not saying you're either of those, but I do believe you're a threat.

2. A threat.

3. I'm saying don't be an idiot. Focusing on SOLELY one person at a time leads to bandwagoning and using one person's faulty logic to kill an innocent.

[Silly Kitty]

My bad TWG. I thought the imposter was a townie.

I am sorry that I named you specifically. I just wanted everyone to be on the lookout and not rule out anyone just yet. My apologies.

[The Wandering God]

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

I'm saying that people view being too helpful as suspicious and trying to act unmafiate.

Because I don't want townies to die.

I stand corrected.

That.

Now, care to tell me how I'm flying off the deep end?


1. I'm not saying you're either of those, but I do believe you're a threat.

2. A threat.

3. I'm saying don't be an idiot. Focusing on SOLELY one person at a time leads to bandwagoning and using one person's faulty logic to kill an innocent.

Stop trying to say what other people think. Tell us what you think. You can't say anymore than that. Unless of course you're a mafiate, mason, or cult member.

And as much as I'd like to think that every single lynch will be for a town threat, how realistic is that? What it means is that when we lynch an innocent, we view who voted for them and why. It also helps to view who they voted for. It gives us more evidence. As long as their death helps the town more than it hurts, than it was worth it.

And before I seemed wayyyyy to focused on DarthMauler and CmP to others (Silly Kitty for the first one, and SpacePope made a comment about our "infighting" on the other.) You didn't bother to say anything then.

Perhaps it was when the hit failed that you had to switch to other means to silence me.

And you went off the deep end when you voted for the least likely person in the town. Even those who said I could be the CL didn't even FoS me. I'm trying to help the town, and you're trying to kill me. Oh wait... sound familair?

And because you think I'm a threat, you're willing to kill the one person who isn't a mafiate or the imposter.

As for bandwagonning. I can't control others actions. I can, however, give reasons for what I'm doing. If others want to agree or disagree, that's their business.

The Wandering God

[The SSB Intern]

And as much as I'd like to think that every single lynch will be for a town threat, how realistic is that? What it means is that when we lynch an innocent, we view who voted for them and why. It also helps to view who they voted for. It gives us more evidence. As long as their death helps the town more than it hurts, than it was worth it.

You know, it doesn't it always happen. The lynching could also be used to throw people off.

I'll wait until friday to vote, although Newb and TWG look kinda suspicious to me.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

Stop trying to say what other people think. Tell us what you think. You can't say anymore than that. Unless of course you're a mafiate, mason, or cult member.

I'm speaking from experience.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

And as much as I'd like to think that every single lynch will be for a town threat, how realistic is that? What it means is that when we lynch an innocent, we view who voted for them and why. It also helps to view who they voted for. It gives us more evidence. As long as their death helps the town more than it hurts, than it was worth it.

Are you saying it's okay to kill innocents? Because that's what it sounds like to me.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

And before I seemed wayyyyy to focused on DarthMauler and CmP to others (Silly Kitty for the first one, and SpacePope made a comment about our "infighting" on the other.) You didn't bother to say anything then.

Was I online then? No.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

Perhaps it was when the hit failed that you had to switch to other means to silence me.

What's this? A blind accusation!

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

And you went off the deep end when you voted for the least likely person in the town. Even those who said I could be the CL didn't even FoS me. I'm trying to help the town, and you're trying to kill me. Oh wait... sound familair?

Awfully high 'n mighty. Lesee here, bodyguard going blind, and you pissing off the mafia and the Impostor. Sounds to me like you're only good at pissing people off.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

And because you think I'm a threat, you're willing to kill the one person who isn't a mafiate or the imposter.

I'm surrounded by Mafiates and an impostor! OOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo.

I hope you realize just how absurd that claim is.

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

As for bandwagonning. I can't control others actions. I can, however, give reasons for what I'm doing. If others want to agree or disagree, that's their business.

Exactly.

[CallmePrismatic]

Well, I was a tad suspicious of SK and Rhiya but both of them seem to have cleared any doubts (Although I guess now is as good a time as any to mention, WATCH HOW YOU PHRASE THINGS!! Try reading over your post and imagining that you were the intended target if that helps.) about CL-finger pointing.

Fenris on the other hand...what is your deal? Mafiates can't and would never hit one of their own, but that's small fries. My deal is with this particular statement

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

3. I'm saying don't be an idiot. Focusing on SOLELY one person at a time leads to bandwagoning and using one person's faulty logic to kill an innocent.

No, focusing solely on one person is how you figure out who to vote for. We each only have one vote, so naturally we want to make sure that we figure out exactly the best way to use. It'd be nice if we could vote with absolute certainty in everything but people are wearing masks in this game so it makes sense to spend more time using a microscope than a...a...something metaphoric that allows for viewing a group.

I don't want to speak for TWG but I can understand why he would focus on Rhiya and SK. He is basically a confirmed townie, so when people start to give you dirty stares you're going to assume that you foiled their plans. As such, those two provided the best candidates for scrutiny, but both have proved they commited a Darth-ism and simply worked off of false presumptions and mistatements.

You on the other hand are very on the offensive (as opposed to SK and Rhiya who merely explained and defended), so I'm gunna give you an FOS, which will cacoon into a vote if you can't explain your overzealousness.