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Kurosen · 09-15-2006, 09:46 AM

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Kind of funny that back in the day I would have bought something just because Square made it, and now I won't even consider their games

Welcome to 1998 ;D

Jagos · 09-15-2006, 09:48 AM

Hmmm...

Square making a 13th FINAL Fantasy...

And yet Parasite Eve, Vagrant Story, Rad Racer, Ehrgeiz, and Tobal don't become franchise material.

I think EA learned a valuable lesson behind their "bigger is better" era. You can make a franchise but you must constantly improve it. Kinda hard when you only have one main story. I liked the SNES era of Square for Secret of Mana and all but nowadays, the name of FF is becoming more and more... I don't know the word...

Burned out.

I dunno if Square is retreading ground or if they're breaking new ones. The money's gonna dry up and I worry if Square-Enix is gonna dry up like Sega eventually. I like how Dragon Warrior has become more popular. But for the love of mike, can't we get a few creative and talented writers to make up some new names?

BitVyper · 09-15-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurosen

Welcome to 1998 ;D

So, it took me this long to get passed denial and blow through to acceptance.

Majin Darshe · 09-16-2006, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JC123

Hmmm...

Square making a 13th FINAL Fantasy...

And yet Parasite Eve, Vagrant Story, Rad Racer, Ehrgeiz, and Tobal don't become franchise material.

I think EA learned a valuable lesson behind their "bigger is better" era. You can make a franchise but you must constantly improve it. Kinda hard when you only have one main story. I liked the SNES era of Square for Secret of Mana and all but nowadays, the name of FF is becoming more and more... I don't know the word...

Burned out.

I dunno if Square is retreading ground or if they're breaking new ones. The money's gonna dry up and I worry if Square-Enix is gonna dry up like Sega eventually. I like how Dragon Warrior has become more popular. But for the love of mike, can't we get a few creative and talented writers to make up some new names?

Wait a minute...almost every Final Fantasy game in recent years has more or less had a completely new and different game-play engine for each game (Although FFX-2 is basically a throwback to FF5's, and FF9's is an improved version of FF6's esper system. FF 1-3 were basically the same game. And FF12 is an extreme departure from previous games, only partially resembling FFXI) and you consider it "burned out", while Dragon Quest/Warrior has more or less had a very simplified system for decades and is pretty much 99% dungeon crawler and you think it ISN'T? Not that I'm dissing DQ at all, but still.

I really can't understand this logic at all. Maybe some people should just let stuff go...

Fifthfiend · 09-16-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Neko Tera-san

If there was a god, he would have smashed you by this time. :stressed:

If there was a God he'd get someone to make me a damn real sequel to Chrono Trigger.

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

I have to admit enjoying watching the battle scenes in Advent Children.

Oh come on, even the fight scenes were retarded. It was like watching the six million dollar Dragonball Z episode.

PyrosNine · 09-16-2006, 02:09 PM

I find it rather funny that the 13th final fantasy, which may be the most unlucky game for Squeenix, is the one they decide to make 3 games for.

And they even go with the idea to make the main character of the central game of the 3 star a literally female Cloud. I thought so when I first watched it, and then when I was reading this one piece on FFXIII, for character design the designers were actually thinking "Hey, Cloud's very popular, so let's make the main character look like a female cloud.

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Originally Posted by E3 thingy interview

Lastly, Motomu Toriyama, while reluctant to discuss in detail the main character, revealed "This time, one of the characteristics of this heroine is that she's not that feminine. I tried to make her someone very strong, independent.

"When I asked Mr. Nomura to design this character, I requested someone like a female version of Cloud from FFVII."

A female version of cloud, eh? Isn't that predictable....

So my thoughts go like this. The new hero is going to be a mix of Cloud, and the only gun wielding female in an FF game, Yuna. Of course that would end up looking like this (shudder) so they'll just add some Tifa, or possibly Motoko Kusanagi to get HER.

Fans of cross dressing cloud can celebrate, while the rest of us can cringe, look the other way and hope he doesn't try to interact with us in any way, shape or form.

Fifthfiend · 09-16-2006, 02:23 PM

After five iterations of progressively more effete male leads, it's actually almost a step forward that they went ahead and made the character an actual girl.

Majin Darshe · 09-16-2006, 02:23 PM

I think they just said that they aren't planning on making the girl in the trailer the main character. They just used her because she would basically make a good impression.

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After five iterations of progressively more effete male leads, it's actually almost a step forward that they went ahead and made the character an actual girl.

I think that goes for the ENTIRE SERIES ACTUALLY

http://www.ffcompendium.com/art/4-ce..._paladin-a.jpg
http://www.ffcompendium.com/art/5-butz-a.jpg
http://www.ffcompendium.com/art/6-locke-a.jpg

Fifthfiend · 09-16-2006, 02:35 PM

Out of game art doesn't count.

Mirai Gen · 09-16-2006, 02:40 PM

Yeah, being fair, Yoshitaka Amano's art is effimate no matter who it is.

Just look at that Locke picture.

And, continuing fair-being, while I happen to like Chrono Cross, yeah it wasn't a Chrono Trigger sequel, and I'm still fucking waiting for it.

And well, as Fifth said, fuck FF13.

09-16-2006, 02:23 PM	#27
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09-16-2006, 02:35 PM	#29
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	Out of game art doesn't count. __________________ check out my buttspresso

09-16-2006, 02:40 PM	#30
Mirai Gen We are Geth. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 14,032	Yeah, being fair, Yoshitaka Amano's art is effimate no matter who it is. Just look at that Locke picture. And, continuing fair-being, while I happen to like Chrono Cross, yeah it wasn't a Chrono Trigger sequel, and I'm still fucking waiting for it. And well, as Fifth said, fuck FF13. __________________

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09-15-2006, 09:48 AM	#22
Jagos FRONT KICK OF DOOM! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Howdy pardner... Posts: 6,399	Hmmm... Square making a 13th FINAL Fantasy... And yet Parasite Eve, Vagrant Story, Rad Racer, Ehrgeiz, and Tobal don't become franchise material. I think EA learned a valuable lesson behind their "bigger is better" era. You can make a franchise but you must constantly improve it. Kinda hard when you only have one main story. I liked the SNES era of Square for Secret of Mana and all but nowadays, the name of FF is becoming more and more... I don't know the word... Burned out. I dunno if Square is retreading ground or if they're breaking new ones. The money's gonna dry up and I worry if Square-Enix is gonna dry up like Sega eventually. I like how Dragon Warrior has become more popular. But for the love of mike, can't we get a few creative and talented writers to make up some new names?