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Unread 12-03-2008, 11:58 PM   #21
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Here is a better question, could a sequel go anywhere but down-hill? After you face the Joker, everything else seems pretty straightforward in comparison.
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Unread 12-04-2008, 12:51 AM   #22
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Here is a better question, could a sequel go anywhere but down-hill? After you face the Joker, everything else seems pretty straightforward in comparison.
Can you think of a single movie better than The Dark Knight? If so, it's possible for a movie to be better even without the Joker.

Obviously the Joker was a great character, but he's far from a necessary ingredient for a great movie. The Nolan brothers would have to do some terrific work to make up for that loss, but I think they are capable of doing so.
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Unread 12-04-2008, 01:05 AM   #23
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Can you think of a single movie better than The Dark Knight? If so, it's possible for a movie to be better even without the Joker.
but can you think of a better batman movie?
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Unread 12-04-2008, 01:25 AM   #24
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but can you think of a better batman movie?
Even try anything in it's genre. Once you start getting to that point, it's hard to find some wiggle room.
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Unread 12-04-2008, 01:34 AM   #25
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I mean, Bruce already has super-tech, so it's not that out there in the "Nolan-verse" for someone to have a cryo-suit, as long as the money comes from somewhere- crime, perhaps?
But no puns, Jesus.
I figured the thing that made the Nolan-verse so realistic is that it did'nt necessarily revolve around the crazy science and such.

For example
Originally, he joker went crazy and became the joker after a really bad day, and then falling in the magic joker juice.
In the nolan-verse, he's got very normal scars, paints his face, and is crazy for some undisclosed reason.

in the original comics
Scarecrow gets rejected by his medical peers, and becomes obsessed with fear
In the movie, Scarecrow develops a very realistic hallucinagen, and attempts to use it for conventional means, cash.

all of bat's most supery villians have origins and concepts that revolve around their powers. taking away from their realism


But I still wants my poison ivy. or freeze, and Dammit where's robin?

I know what they said about robin in the movie already, but dammit!
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Unread 12-04-2008, 03:01 AM   #26
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I figured the thing that made the Nolan-verse so realistic is that it did'nt necessarily revolve around the crazy science and such.
Maybe not as far as the villains are concerned, no.
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Unread 12-04-2008, 10:04 AM   #27
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Well if you really want to avoid the whole freak science thing, why not go with the Penguin? He was just a short web-toed man with a bird fetish
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Unread 12-04-2008, 11:16 AM   #28
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but can you think of a better batman movie?
In it's time could you think of a single better batman movie then Batman Begins?

It could be topped, what makes Dark Night so special that it's the end all be all. Maybe I'm just hopeful, but I'm pretty sure anything can be topped. It just might take a massive amount of effort and creativity.
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Unread 12-04-2008, 11:33 AM   #29
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If they match it, I will be more than pleased. It's a tough act to follow but at least Nolan himself acknowledges that. I'd be far more afraid of it sucking if the director just made empty promises that "oh yeah, we can top it, totally, so easy, don't worry". I mean, I have absolutely no doubt that Joel Schumacher, from day one, thought that Batman Forever was a better movie than Batman Returns. That is terrifying.
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Unread 12-04-2008, 01:29 PM   #30
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I was just suggesting a Batman villain who didn't get into the big screen, and now that I think of it... a Nolan Clayface would probably be too similar to Two-Face, as he'd probably be another split personality guy, but with a mask.

Probably one of the most horrifying masks ever, mind you, but still.
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