Pokemon Umbral Discussion 17: Renny Will Be the Antagonist In the Sequel

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Menarker

And as for the two of you, I don't make a very nice enemy, especially when trying to split Renny and Lola up. >_> You test my diminishing patience once too often and I'll just snap one day. <_<

I got one thing to say:

Ah.
Ah-ha.
Ahahaha.
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AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!

Originally Posted by Menarker

And I was just thinking how STUPID that Claydol trainer was. He could have used Wobbuffet's Safeguard ability to repeatably buff pokemon against status effects. But no!!!!

I don't think it's so much the Claydol Pokebrid being stupid as it is AB being stupid.

[Menarker]

I don't think it's so much the Claydol Pokebrid being stupid as it is AB being stupid.

Calling your GM (or his actions) stupid is typically a stupid move.

I hope Dante didn't mind that the post went ahead before he got the chance to post.

But yeah, current plan is to knock out all the other pokemons and pokebrids so there is less in total to fight or force the Light and Dark to send out their other pokemons to fill in the spaces, which means they'll likely all have the same typing and easier to knock out and deal with.

[Astral Harmony]

I can see the end of this RP. Impact and Pierce in a sword fight on board a runaway train speeding towards a cliff during a freak thunderstorm, fighting to the death over who gets to be the villain in the sequel and kill Renny.

Wait, what'm I saying? That will mostly likely happen after Renny's sidequest.

Impact: "Yeah, we're jus' goin' out for a quick smoke break."
Pierce: "Won't be long, we promise."
And then the winner returns to Renny's house will blood all over his clothes and sword and everyone's like "What the hell happened to you?"
Victor: "Oh, I just...fell down some stairs is all. By the way, the guy who isn't me isn't coming back. He resigned...forever. Muah ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaagh!"
Everybody Else: "...Oh-effin'-well."

And I am stupid. And Wobbuffet is stupid. I'm not putting his stupid ass in the RP again. No wonder Team Rocket kept on losing. Did they even use him once?

The Claydol Pokebrid and his sixth Pokemon aren't targets on the Ally Phase yet. Solrock and Lunatone already used his moves up. It's like how, during the Enemy Phase when an ally's Pokemon is defeated, that character doesn't just deploy another one until the next Ally Phase. They sort gain phase immunity and can't be attacked until their next phase.

As for Explosion, in my guide it says two foes and one ally.

And for Maria, you can go ahead and decide what she does as far as healing before the next Ally Phase kicks off. She's going to be acting more or less between turns, directed by you.

Now for that stuff about Seed Flare's attack versus Milotic, it's not quite as possible to hit 'em exactly the way you want to. Those Pokemon are going to be real bastards. Those are Pokemon Alphas. They're a lot like Rogue Pokemon (the ones that start as Rogues, not ones you have to fight off when you kill their trainer) and Renny's Pokemon after he becomes a Breeder. Though I don't think Renny will use drugs 'n' shit to make his the way The Dark and The Light made theirs.

EDIT 1: That's how Medical Specialists and Non-Combatant Item Users like Maria will work. You've got Maria and Lola on one side and Dormond and Rachel on the other. As the team captain (Renny and Impact or Pierce), you look at the results of the Enemy Phase and designate which items those characters use on what targets. This happens between that Enemy Phase and the next Ally Phase. For the Pokebrids, if they've taken an action on the Ally Phase before (like Lola's Sexy Party), they only get to use one item at that time. Same goes for when Maria uses Sexy Party (no, not really). Those items are then used before the next Ally Phase starts and then we proceed as normal.

Just my way of putting the power in the actual people.

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

And I am stupid. And Wobbuffet is stupid. I'm not putting his stupid ass in the RP again. No wonder Team Rocket kept on losing. Did they even use him once?

Now for that stuff about Seed Flare's attack versus Milotic, it's not quite as possible to hit 'em exactly the way you want to. Those Pokemon are going to be real bastards. Those are Pokemon Alphas. They're a lot like Rogue Pokemon (the ones that start as Rogues, not ones you have to fight off when you kill their trainer) and Renny's Pokemon after he becomes a Breeder. Though I don't think Renny will use drugs 'n' shit to make his the way The Dark and The Light made theirs.

EDIT 1: That's how Medical Specialists and Non-Combatant Item Users like Maria will work. You've got Maria and Lola on one side and Dormond and Rachel on the other. As the team captain (Renny and Impact or Pierce), you look at the results of the Enemy Phase and designate which items those characters use on what targets. This happens between that Enemy Phase and the next Ally Phase. For the Pokebrids, if they've taken an action on the Ally Phase before (like Lola's Sexy Party), they only get to use one item at that time. Same goes for when Maria uses Sexy Party (no, not really). Those items are then used before the next Ally Phase starts and then we proceed as normal.

1: In regards to Team Rocket, they did use him quite a few times, mostly in the same way that you tried to use him (Hoping they directly attacked Wobbuffet and hoping they guessed with move to use) although Wobbuffet was better as in he could actually step in front of his trainers or fellow pokemon in a manner similar to the move Follow Me. Almost none of the good guys have any poison pokemon or tried to use any sleep tactics, focusing more on brute force tactic.

The way that most "clever" people raise him is to raise him from his baby form Wyanut which gives a few moves like Encore which forces the pokemon to use one move only repeatably, taking out the guesswork from whether to use Counter or Mirror Reflect. Given his very VERY high hitpoints, he was almost sure to always knock out one pokemon or two before he went down.
Although, the reason he was banned in touraments was because of his ability Shadow Tag... You can't retreat with that. Can you imagine what happens if two Wobbuffets tried battling? Let me list the factors...
A: Neither one can retreat.
B: Trainers of Wobbuffet tend to ALWAYS give them leftovers which combos well with their very very high hitpoints.
C: Neither of them have offensive moves, even when raised as a baby.
E: Almost all their attacks got like 15 PP at least.
E: They got piss poor attack stat, so stuggle does so little damage, which would end up being regenerated by leftovers.

The end result is that the battle would never end unless a Wobbuffet got 30 criticals in a row or so. This changed with the new generations of games which made stuggle do a recoil damage of 25% of your total hitpoints, but still... it became a long metapod battle of sort.

Long story short, Wobbuffet is one of those pokemons who is a monster in 1 VS 1, but crappy in a setting like this. He doesn't seem that useful because most of the storyline involves you having to fight multiple trainers in a row to fight, whether you're traveling from town to town, or just having to endure an onslaught of Elite 4 pokemons. Wobbuffet is useful strictly for duels where there are fewer pokemons to deal with, such as the typical one shot online pokemon battles.

2: The Pokemon Alpha thing is interesting to note and sounds awesome that Renny's pokemon will be like that. And nope, no drugs and that sort of thing. ^^

3: Good to note about the Item user thing. I'll keep that in mind from now all.


EDIT: Edited my plan to fit AB's comments.

Maria heals up Lanturn to fighting shape. A plan is in the making!

Lola uses Heal Bell to restore all status conditions such as sleep. (Darkrai's ability would hurt sleeping pokemon). Shaymin and Latias are back in action
Harriette use water bullet on Houndoom again, this time boosted by the Rain Dance.
Evangaleen uses Luxray's Thunder on Milotic, STAB super effective damage. 100% accuracy due to Rain Dance. (And it's still weakened) Luxray Intimidate kicks in. All foes, including hopefully Darkrai and Cresselia have their attack drop by 1 stage.
Matthias use Sunny Day. Water moves are weaken (Sucks for Cresselia's water attacks), some grass moves pumped and all fire move damage boosted.
Kirie's Entei use Eruption on both bug pokemon for 150 attack that get STAB and Sunny Day boosted. One of them is already weakened and they SHOULD have crappy defensive stats. ^^;
Shannon sends Roserade to use one turn Solarbeam on Wailord and Milotic for Super Effective STAB damage and very high special attack.
Moon sends Poliwrath. Uses Focus Blast on Absol who got low special def and health compared to Poliwrath's 120 power STAB super effective move.
Whitney use Psychic on Muk
Dominic's Latias to use Mist Ball on Arbok Pokebrid for STAB Super effective damage and 50% chance of lowering his attack. Latias holding Soul Dew to make its Special Attack and Special Defence 50% higher, for a total of 165 Special Attack.
Renny's Shaymin to use Seed Flare on Wailord for Super Effective STAB damage. 40% chance of reducing it's special defence by 2 stages and 10% chance of flinching it. (Double that if AB says that those chances are doubled due to Wailord's weakness)



EDIT: Writing my post, and god, I'm getting a little annoyed at Whitney and Kirie all copying my speech color!

[Astral Harmony]

It's all pretty much shit I came up with on the fly to make this whole system work better.

Actually, I pretty much come up with everything on the fly here. I guess I just come home, down a grape soda, and suddenly feel inspired. "Hey, let's make those Pokemon tougher to kill! Hey, let's make Lexhur's body impenetrable until some of his other parts are destroyed! Hey, let's have Kirie make her entrance! Hey, let's have Pierce discover a discarded (but in still great shape) Snorlax costume behind a shrubbery! Hey, let's have Impact and Pierce (while in the Snorlax costume) convince Lexhur to find a train track that ends at a cliff to speed down with both of them standing on him and fighting to the death with swords to become the antagonist in the sequel! Hey, whatever happened to Pokegeddon? Hey, where all the white womens at? Hey, how let da dawgs out?"

It's just ridiculous.

[Bard The 5th LW]

THE YELLOW TEXT IS ANNOYING AND CHIRPY. GO LOOK AT THE DEEP SKY BLUE TEXT INSTEAD.

[Astral Harmony]

Yeah, kinda sucks that there's only so many colors. Evangaleen's color is Lemon Chiffon but unless you look really fuckin' close, you can't tell that it's colored at all, even when I type it in bold.

I guess I'll make Kirie Sea Green from now on. That way she'll be different from Whitney without using Shannon's color. Too many damn characters. At least when the DSS comes out, the number of characters will be limited to the point where only one character should end up using a text color each mission.

[Menarker]

... I just had a weird thought of Lexhur starring as one of those trains in "Thomas The Tank Engine", the kid's TV show about trains. ^^;

Weird what I think about, no?



You guys on the other side are all weird, talking to trains as if they were alive.

[Dracorion]

As soon as Lexhur reaches critical health after his Umbral Awakening, Pierce is doing a "little engine that could" joke.

And if you steal this from me, I swear to God, no amount of pleading or standing agreements or whatever will stop me from making you pay.

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Dracorion

As soon as Lexhur reaches critical health after his Umbral Awakening, Pierce is doing a "little engine that could" joke.

And if you steal this from me, I swear to God, no amount of pleading or standing agreements or whatever will stop me from making you pay.

Who would stop you? Hell, I encourage it... except try not to actually kill him. You guys are just trying to convince him you're powerful enough to side with and earn his trust. He might not actually do an Umbral Awakening since that's suicidal, destroying one's own body or so.