Comic Book Villains - Page 3

Magus · 07-23-2010, 01:33 AM

Yeah, I just don't know if he ever brought it up that he's against torture or okay with it or whatever. I mean in the comics, obviously the movies don't have enough time to explore all the facets of the character. I just wondered if anybody who read a lot of the comics knew if he was against torture or not, since the movies don't follow everything about Batman to the letter, anyway.

Yeah, I forgot that the Joker wasn't tied up or anything, maybe that's Batman's loophole.

walkertexasdruid · 07-25-2010, 06:01 PM

Ooh, I know, how about the Ventriloquist? A physically weak man who, through his terrible psycholigical problems, is able to get criminals to do his bidding. When Batman catches him, he can blame it on the doll. I guess Batman could obliterate the doll, which would crush the man without physically harming him. It could make for a pretty creepy movie.

Lithp · 07-25-2010, 08:47 PM

That does sound like a good idea. I still have my heart set on Penguin & Poison Ivy, though.

Magus · 07-26-2010, 06:02 PM

I think about the time people can take a crime boss talking through a ventriloquist dummy will be about the time they reboot the franchise with more "magical" elements, which would probably be for the best so we can have Clayface or Mr. Freeze or any of the other various "unrealistic" villains.

Lithp · 07-26-2010, 07:04 PM

The animated movie thing had a good "realistic" Killer Croc. Presumably, they could darker-&-edgier anything.

Magus · 07-26-2010, 09:17 PM

Yeah, in the Joker: The Dark Knight graphic novel Killer Croc is a gangbanger with some skin condition that is also a cannibal for Joker (to get rid of unwanted bodies). It'd easily translate to screen. But a guy with a freeze gun is probably harder to pull off. Plus Nolan said he isn't doing Mr. Freeze.

They could do Firebug, he just has flamethrowers. But they should probably go with a more major villain.

Lithp · 07-26-2010, 09:46 PM

Oh, it would certainly take creativity. This is what I meant, though:

Killer Croc-Half crocodile.

Realistic Rendition-Skin condition, mental patient, cannibal.

Not the same, but it achieves the same basic effect. So, maybe Freeze accomplishes his ice shtick some other way?

Although, I will admit that this is a purely hypothetical statement that thrives in a vacuum of information.

walkertexasdruid · 07-28-2010, 08:48 PM

Your idea for Killer Croc is very interesting, and the current movie makers definitely like really dark subject matter for Batman to deall with. Another option could be the Mad Hatter, Gotham City has shown that it has advanced technology, so small devices designed to control people's minds are not that far-fetched in these movies.

Seil · 07-28-2010, 11:54 PM

What's the take on Reptile for that Mortal Kombat thing? Harlequin baby cannibal?

Nique · 07-29-2010, 12:52 AM

Villians are always corrupted power in some form - Luthor is smarter than, well, everyone so that is pretty much his justification for everything. Usually, anyway. Some iterations protray him as more buisness-minded and schemeing rather than focus on the mind-boggling inteligence.

But yeah, overall, Luthor is a solid villain.

I'd like to see them make up their minds about Poison Ivy - I mean, her whole schtick is too confusing. She's an environmentalist or eco-terrorist metaphor, laregly, but I mean, she also teams up with the arguably materialist Catwoman becuase....?

07-25-2010, 06:01 PM	#22
walkertexasdruid I am the One Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Infinate Layers of the Abyss Posts: 533	Ooh, I know, how about the Ventriloquist? A physically weak man who, through his terrible psycholigical problems, is able to get criminals to do his bidding. When Batman catches him, he can blame it on the doll. I guess Batman could obliterate the doll, which would crush the man without physically harming him. It could make for a pretty creepy movie. __________________ Naive Optimist

07-25-2010, 08:47 PM	#23
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	That does sound like a good idea. I still have my heart set on Penguin & Poison Ivy, though. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

07-26-2010, 07:04 PM	#25
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	The animated movie thing had a good "realistic" Killer Croc. Presumably, they could darker-&-edgier anything. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

07-26-2010, 09:46 PM	#27
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	Oh, it would certainly take creativity. This is what I meant, though: Killer Croc-Half crocodile. Realistic Rendition-Skin condition, mental patient, cannibal. Not the same, but it achieves the same basic effect. So, maybe Freeze accomplishes his ice shtick some other way? Although, I will admit that this is a purely hypothetical statement that thrives in a vacuum of information. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

07-28-2010, 08:48 PM	#28
walkertexasdruid I am the One Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Infinate Layers of the Abyss Posts: 533	Your idea for Killer Croc is very interesting, and the current movie makers definitely like really dark subject matter for Batman to deall with. Another option could be the Mad Hatter, Gotham City has shown that it has advanced technology, so small devices designed to control people's minds are not that far-fetched in these movies. __________________ Naive Optimist

07-23-2010, 01:33 AM	#21
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Yeah, I just don't know if he ever brought it up that he's against torture or okay with it or whatever. I mean in the comics, obviously the movies don't have enough time to explore all the facets of the character. I just wondered if anybody who read a lot of the comics knew if he was against torture or not, since the movies don't follow everything about Batman to the letter, anyway. Yeah, I forgot that the Joker wasn't tied up or anything, maybe that's Batman's loophole.

07-26-2010, 06:02 PM	#24
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	I think about the time people can take a crime boss talking through a ventriloquist dummy will be about the time they reboot the franchise with more "magical" elements, which would probably be for the best so we can have Clayface or Mr. Freeze or any of the other various "unrealistic" villains.

07-26-2010, 09:17 PM	#26
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Yeah, in the Joker: The Dark Knight graphic novel Killer Croc is a gangbanger with some skin condition that is also a cannibal for Joker (to get rid of unwanted bodies). It'd easily translate to screen. But a guy with a freeze gun is probably harder to pull off. Plus Nolan said he isn't doing Mr. Freeze. They could do Firebug, he just has flamethrowers. But they should probably go with a more major villain.

07-28-2010, 11:54 PM	#29
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	What's the take on Reptile for that Mortal Kombat thing? Harlequin baby cannibal?

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