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[Aerozord]

First I want to say, E Tech doesn't have to be something you do in human form, its just the only way you can do stuff in human form.

Now first Menarker, there are a few issues with your character some minor some not. A few issues with diet, you are confusing unhealthy with toxic. Junk food is not poisonous, bleach technically isn't either as its just very acidic. Some work, battery acid, venoms, smog, are all fine.

Issues with your E Tech, first one you dont have to coat weapons with it. As I mentioned you could convert the weapon itself into your element. Like shooting bullets made of cyanide.

Your original number two, I still would have denied but for a different reason. You already can do this. It doesn't make you invulnerable though, you still have to exert effort to keep the form together, but it can have perks. Arcanum for example, if in metal for would take alot less damage from being cut with a knife. A character of smoke, while a missile passing though them would need to be healed, better then getting hit with the blast too.

Your rot though is perfectly fine. In fact might I suggest going with element of smoke instead? It still embodies everything you want but works better on a thematic scale. Say poison and most have just a vague concept, but smoke is instantly pictured and understood which is what you want with elements. Its like comparing heat to fire.

Finally, honestly having trouble figuring out how to work you into the story. I just dont see much reason for them to interact with you its why I made PCs members of the same group. so, if you have any suggestions please share.

Now Arcanum, think you got the right idea with diet in that you need composite materials of metals like ore, as opposed to refined final product. My only issue is your decline power. You are thinking too small scale with your power. Destroying a man-sized hole in concrete should take but a few seconds and be fairly trivial.

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

Now first Menarker, there are a few issues with your character some minor some not. A few issues with diet, you are confusing unhealthy with toxic. Junk food is not poisonous, bleach technically isn't either as its just very acidic. Some work, battery acid, venoms, smog, are all fine.

Well, I saw AB's character have Spicy Food in the bio and acted accordingly. As for bleach, my mindset was, if I can't eat or drink it in real life and the reason for it is not because it's physically sharp or pointy or oversized, then it would count. :3

Issues with your E Tech, first one you dont have to coat weapons with it. As I mentioned you could convert the weapon itself into your element. Like shooting bullets made of cyanide.

Ah, ok. The technique is still useful in itself though and coating weapons could still be useful if I want to persuade an ally (willing or otherwise) to fight on my side. Or poison someone's shaving razor. :3

Your original number two, I still would have denied but for a different reason. You already can do this. It doesn't make you invulnerable though, you still have to exert effort to keep the form together, but it can have perks. Arcanum for example, if in metal for would take alot less damage from being cut with a knife. A character of smoke, while a missile passing though them would need to be healed, better then getting hit with the blast too.

Good to know and even better to hear that I already have it.

Your rot though is perfectly fine. In fact might I suggest going with element of smoke instead? It still embodies everything you want but works better on a thematic scale. Say poison and most have just a vague concept, but smoke is instantly pictured and understood which is what you want with elements. Its like comparing heat to fire.

Well, Smoke doesn't sound useful at all. It is easy to picture yes, but not really do much. Ever played pokemon? Just think of a elementalized version of Muk, Weezing and other pokemon pokemons that aren't based on real life poisonous animals (Although Grevan could use their abilities too with his first ability). Heck, Muk is easy to visualize, along with any other representation of sentient sludge or whatnot.

Finally, honestly having trouble figuring out how to work you into the story. I just dont see much reason for them to interact with you its why I made PCs members of the same group. so, if you have any suggestions please share.

Easy enough. Too dangerous to let roam unchecked (or hired by lawbreakers), willing to do some dirty and dangerous work in exchange for immunity to law and all the money and chicks he can handle. :3
Think of him like a mercenery or someone like Belkar from Order of the Stick. His abilities can be bought to use his pretty useful but otherwise inhumane powers for the greater good. Just don't expect him to be moved by patriotism or anything that doesn't directly satisfy his avarice.

[Arcanum]

Now Arcanum, think you got the right idea with diet in that you need composite materials of metals like ore, as opposed to refined final product. My only issue is your decline power. You are thinking too small scale with your power. Destroying a man-sized hole in concrete should take but a few seconds and be fairly trivial.

Alright. I've had issues with GMs in the past regarding aging/time powers which is why I had it weakened from the start. I'd rather be told it's too weak and beef it up than told it's too strong and tone it down.

Easy enough. Too dangerous to let roam unchecked (or hired by lawbreakers), willing to do some dirty and dangerous work in exchange for immunity to law and all the money and chicks he can handle. :3
Think of him like a mercenery or someone like Belkar from Order of the Stick. His abilities can be bought to use his pretty useful but otherwise inhumane powers for the greater good. Just don't expect him to be moved by patriotism or anything that doesn't directly satisfy his avarice

From what I understand, White Shield is the kind of group that hunts down people like your character. With Elemental Metamorphs at their disposal (as well as means to deal with Elementals) I think it's safe to say they could capture or kill all but the most determined Elementals. They don't seem like the kind of group to hire the people they are trying to hunt down.

At least, that's the way I see it.

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by Menarker

Well, I saw AB's character have Spicy Food in the bio and acted accordingly.

Thats because it hits on a conceptual level. The chemical in spicy food literally triggers the sensation of fire. Its why your instinct is to drink something. Junk food is not toxic nor does it represent poison. As I said unhealthy does not equal poison.

Originally Posted by Menarker

Well, Smoke doesn't sound useful at all. It is easy to picture yes, but not really do much.

neither does earth or metal, not all elements are dynamic. Besides, doesn't do much? You actually valued becoming smoke so highly you wanted it to be one of your techniques. You do not have infinite versions of your element to become. If you feel Muk is a good visualization then you can be a pile of sludge. I just personally find highly viscus goo a step down from dynamic highly caustic gas on the desirability scale

Originally Posted by Arcanum

From what I understand, White Shield is the kind of group that hunts down people like your character. With Elemental Metamorphs at their disposal (as well as means to deal with Elementals) I think it's safe to say they could capture or kill all but the most determined Elementals. They don't seem like the kind of group to hire the people they are trying to hunt down.

At least, that's the way I see it.

basically yes, this is true

[Arcanum]

Edited my Decline ability. I made it so it's more devastating as a direct touch ability, while making sure he couldn't reduce a skyscraper to dust in mere seconds.

I also like it better this way, since it makes sense that the closer something is to an embodiment of The Decline of Matter the faster it declines.

[Menarker]

neither does earth or metal, not all elements are dynamic. Besides, doesn't do much? You actually valued becoming smoke so highly you wanted it to be one of your techniques. You do not have infinite versions of your element to become. If you feel Muk is a good visualization then you can be a pile of sludge. I just personally find highly viscus goo a step down from dynamic highly caustic gas on the desirability scale

Smoke, especially smokeform as a specific ability and an extension of poison is awesome. But Smoke as the defining element of a character doesn't seem awesome to me. I thought as an elemental I could switch from sludge or gas or what not. Just trying to show that poison as an element is fairly easy to visualize.


As in regards to joining White Shield, Grevan just wants to have a comfortable hedonistic lifestyle. He never intended to go criminal, but being slapped the criminal label and having to go on the run changes people. He'll definately be criminal if society and the law won't let him be. But he isn't trying to turn the country into a wasteland or be a plaguemaster to elementary school kids or stuff like that. So he can be employable if given incentives.
Naturally, or rather presumably, there will be people in White Shield who feels that a poison elemental has no value of any sort. One does have to consider that there will be idealistic and forgiving and sympathic people in an organization (presuming there is no brainwashing) who will be willing to give him a chance and there will be people who are so bent on law and order and procedures who will be on breathing on Grevan's back and looking at his every actions trying to find some excuse to label him a criminal again.


Also, I like Arc's changes to Decline for not effecting Living things. I'm willing to humor that Metal is viewed with mystical properties in some cultures, although it does make me think that other elements could do the same like fire viewed as healing in some culture (including ones that employ the phoenix as a legendary animal) or water for divination like some mythical druid focus. Poison is more directly focused on corruption either of body (poison) or objects (acid), so naturally my rot ability should be more diverse and similarly potent. (Although Steel has many other useful properties.)


^^ Anyhow, I predict that I'll probably have a reluctant partnership with AB's character Alice. Some poison gases and oils and such are incredibly easy to ignite and with explosive properties!

Then again, Alice can also partner with Ox with some sort of "Forge" combination.

[Arcanum]

Originally Posted by Menarker

As in regards to joining White Shield, Grevan just wants to have a comfortable hedonistic lifestyle. He never intended to go criminal, but being slapped the criminal label and having to go on the run changes people. He'll definately be criminal if society and the law won't let him be. But he isn't trying to turn the country into a wasteland or be a plaguemaster to elementary school kids or stuff like that. So he can be employable if given incentives.

Ok this I can understand. In all fairness Ox was on the verge of being hunted by White Shield. He just got lucky and was stopped and offered a job first.

I think that if you work what you said into your bio so that you are already working for White Shield before the game starts then everything will be dandy. But once again that's just my take on things (Sorry if it seems like I'm intruding on your shtick Aero)

Originally Posted by Menarker

Then again, Alice can also partner with Ox with some sort of "Forge" combination.

I don't think Ox would take too kindly to having parts of his body super heated. Fire is actually one of the elements that are a serious threat to him, since all metal is made and unmade in fire.

[Menarker]

I didn't mean a body part. The setting has some decent technology based on metal.

[Aerozord]

arcanum, you are approved now

Originally Posted by Menarker

Smoke, especially smokeform as a specific ability and an extension of poison is awesome. But Smoke as the defining element of a character doesn't seem awesome to me. I thought as an elemental I could switch from sludge or gas or what not. Just trying to show that poison as an element is fairly easy to visualize.

you are the element, not the actual material. Its why water element cant become ice or steam. More over you are what people associate with the material. Using Arcanum as an example again. He'd be non-descript metal with properties associated with the material, magnetic, conducts electricity, heavy, durable, these do not describe all types of metal but its what springs to mind when someone says its metalic.

Anyways I see you are thinking of it backwards of what I would be. Smoke is not an aspect of poison, poison is an aspect of smoke. Smoke represents poison, destruction, death. It invokes idea of polluting factories, smoldering ruins, and out of control fires.

Now I know you wont change your mind, just that poison is actually the more limiting choice as poison only represent biological destruction while smoke is destruction period. But I guess with arcanum you got both covered, so whatever.

Originally Posted by Menarker

As in regards to joining White Shield, Grevan just wants to have a comfortable hedonistic lifestyle. He never intended to go criminal, but being slapped the criminal label and having to go on the run changes people. He'll definately be criminal if society and the law won't let him be. But he isn't trying to turn the country into a wasteland or be a plaguemaster to elementary school kids or stuff like that. So he can be employable if given incentives.
Naturally, or rather presumably, there will be people in White Shield who feels that a poison elemental has no value of any sort. One does have to consider that there will be idealistic and forgiving and sympathic people in an organization (presuming there is no brainwashing) who will be willing to give him a chance and there will be people who are so bent on law and order and procedures who will be on breathing on Grevan's back and looking at his every actions trying to find some excuse to label him a criminal again.

well we could do it like a parole thing, giving him a chance to lose that criminal label and prove he can be helpful to society, plus be a good excuse to get him to same place as the other characters.

Originally Posted by Menarker

Also, I like Arc's changes to Decline for not effecting Living things. I'm willing to humor that Metal is viewed with mystical properties in some cultures, although it does make me think that other elements could do the same like fire viewed as healing in some culture (including ones that employ the phoenix as a legendary animal) or water for divination like some mythical druid focus. Poison is more directly focused on corruption either of body (poison) or objects (acid), so naturally my rot ability should be more diverse and similarly potent. (Although Steel has many other useful properties.)

like I said above you dont really "poison" inanimate objects. Poison is much more associated with living things. Upside is it does also include weakening conceptual things, relationships, businesses, ect. So if you'd like to be good at destroying social interactions there you go.

Originally Posted by Menarker

^^ Anyhow, I predict that I'll probably have a reluctant partnership with AB's character Alice. Some poison gases and oils and such are incredibly easy to ignite and with explosive properties!

Then again, Alice can also partner with Ox with some sort of "Forge" combination.

yes over all true, but I wanted to point this out for everyones benifit. You do have elements that are the bane of your own. I mentioned before this is a way to get around regeneration issue. Yes toxic sludge is flammable and leads to some nice combos, but it also means his elemental body is flammable. Not just him obviously, so keep that in mind everyone, getting hit by some enemies will be alot more damaging then others.

[Astral Harmony]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

yes over all true, but I wanted to point this out for everyones benifit. You do have elements that are the bane of your own. I mentioned before this is a way to get around regeneration issue. Yes toxic sludge is flammable and leads to some nice combos, but it also means his elemental body is flammable. Not just him obviously, so keep that in mind everyone, getting hit by some enemies will be alot more damaging then others.

In other words, Grevan needs to make sure that he doesn't have a direct link with those flammable/explosive gases when having Alice ignite them. Otherwise...

Grevan: "God-fucking-damnit, Alice! How many times is this?! How many times?!"
Alice: "You said you were done."
Grevan: "Yes, I was done gassing the area! But I wasn't clear yet! I told you that I'll say 'clear' and THAT'S when you're supposed to do it!"
Alice: "Okay, look, that's no reason to snap at me."
Grevan: "You set me on fire and you're telling me there's no reason to snap? Are you out of your fucking mind?!"
Alice: "Well, maybe you should explain it with us all one more time so I don't confuse 'done' with 'clear'."
Grevan: "Oh...my...god..."
Alice: "Hey, somebody call Smokey the Bore here a whambulance. Hit up a restaurant on the way there for some whamburgers."
Grevan: "...Urge to suffocate...rising..."