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Unread 06-30-2012, 09:41 AM   #21
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When Souter started slowly drifting left, he started off that way, too; clearly articulating ideological objections yet nonetheless landing on the correct side increasingly often.

Bolding for emphasis. While I don't know his historical decisions, I can say that it's dangerous to say 'correct side' when it comes to politics. But then, what do I know, I'm a semi-concerned libertarian (though nowhere near as involved in politics as Archbio was/is).

On topic, however, I'll agree; this is a great day, and I'm scratching my head over Roberts as well.
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Unread 06-30-2012, 10:52 AM   #22
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I guess I could google this, but I'll ask you guys instead. What economic wizardry transforms "Everyone MUST HAVE healthcare" into "People who can't afford healthcare + food now will be able to afford both because they don't have a choice?" Like, something about car insurance or something; I really don't get how I'm gonna be able to insure myself on the $7 an hour I'm making any better than I can now. Seems to me that HMOs would just raise their prices further, given that making a buck is far higher on their list of priorities than providing health care.

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I believe the bill also states that companies who employ more than 50 people must provide health insurance as well. I don't know if this prevents companies from only offering it to full-time employees and then hiring everyone as part-time to get out of it.
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Unread 06-30-2012, 08:13 PM   #23
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When Souter started slowly drifting left, he started off that way, too; clearly articulating ideological objections yet nonetheless landing on the correct side increasingly often.

...I'm not sayin' this is definitely where Roberts is going; he could just be pulling a Hughes (which is still commendable, yet less an indication of a consistent swing leftward.)
But we can hope.
Roberts is very authoritarian. If you notice, the entire idea behind Obamacare/Romneycare were all conservative ideas. The mandate was thought up by the Heritage Foundation and it's been toted in six Republican states. The problem arises that Roberts has essentially taken away some of the power of Congress with this ruling and energized the right wing to utilize every trick in the book to overturn Obamacare.
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Unread 07-01-2012, 03:21 AM   #24
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and that's when The Mississipi Tea Party made a call to arms for an Armed Revolution in america

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With its 5-4 ruling upholding Obamacare the US Supreme Court has joined with the Executive and Legislative branches of the federal government in abandoning the Constitution, the Rule of Law, and with that ruling abandoned the People. All of us are now simply chattel of the government to be used and ordered about as they choose. The history books will mark this date as the day our constitutional republic was killed. It will now rest with We The People to decide if it will be resurrected or left to rot in the shallow grave dug for it.

Where is the weeping and wailing? Where is the anger and outrage? Do the people of the country realize what has just been stolen from them? Do the people of the world recognize that the shadow of darkness is now fallen upon them as well and that there remains no defender of their feeble freedoms? The all out oppression of all people has begun.

Those “occupiers” now controlling the three federal branches of government have joined together in rejecting all Constitutional restraint and in doing so they have severely violated their oaths to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. Together they now stand as blatant usurpers of power and have reduced our constitutional republic, along with all of its freedoms, to nothing more than a dictatorial junta. Becoming a banana republic is next.

When a gang of criminals subvert legitimate government offices and seize all power to themselves without the real consent of the governed their every act and edict is of itself illegal and is outside the bounds of the Rule of Law. In such cases submission is treason. Treason against the Constitution and the valid legitimate government of the nation to which we have pledged our allegiance for years. To resist by all means that are right in the eyes of God is not rebellion or insurrection, it is patriotic resistance to invasion.

May all of us fall on our faces before the Heavenly Judge, repent of our sins, and humbly cry out to Him for mercy on our country. And, may godly courageous leaders rise up in His wisdom and power to lead us in displacing the criminal invaders from their seats and restore our constitutional republic.

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Unread 07-01-2012, 12:26 PM   #25
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You know, when Rome stopped being a Republic, it became pretty badass. No one remembered the stuff before Julius Ceaser cause it was them getting their asses kicked and being dumb. Punic Wars? More like Puny Wars.
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Unread 07-01-2012, 12:31 PM   #26
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But like pretty much all their territory was captured late republic.
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Unread 07-01-2012, 01:26 PM   #27
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You know, when Rome stopped being a Republic, it became pretty badass. No one remembered the stuff before Julius Ceaser cause it was them getting their asses kicked and being dumb. Punic Wars? More like Puny Wars.
I doubt Rome had to deal with a Texas GOP that doesn't want students to think or showed how outright racist they were when people of color get their voting rights revoked...
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Unread 07-01-2012, 01:30 PM   #28
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But like pretty much all their territory was captured late republic.
By the dudes who told the Republic to fuck off. Anyone of note during the Republic was always betrayed by the Republic.


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I doubt Rome had to deal with a Texas GOP that doesn't want students to think or showed how outright racist they were when people of color get their voting rights revoked...
Rome didn't take criticism very well. You know, the whole crucifixion thing.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 11:00 PM   #29
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lol at the tea party. I guess the invaders are "anyone who is not republican or votes against republicans"? man oh man talk about out of touch with reality.
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Unread 07-03-2012, 11:40 AM   #30
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Can we make "white people shouldn't call themselves chattel" the new "white people shouldn't use the n-word"?
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