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Unread 01-15-2006, 03:42 AM   #291
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Unread 01-15-2006, 04:51 AM   #292
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*enter ghost* Man, we're having a heaven party, and then I see Mestizio coming up from you-know-where to bother you guys.

Mestizio's defense of Raiden doesn't really help him much considering she's the former DON... which probably indicates that Raiden is not a...

*MOD sends Nique back to heaven*

Right, right... no helping. The answers are in here guys. Keep looking.
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Unread 01-15-2006, 05:01 AM   #293
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Unread 01-15-2006, 05:04 AM   #294
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Like Nique pointed out, Mestizio. Don't help. Really, anything from a mafia member is only going to hurt my case. And with one vote left, bad PR is something I don't want.

Seriously people, think before you vote. Don't just toss in a vote, and I swear if someone makes the final vote against me be "Well everyone else is doing it" or anything along those lines, I'm not going to be very happy.
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Unread 01-15-2006, 05:10 AM   #295
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Well, crap. After reading the Wandering God's post, I would even convict myself. And I'm gone for a day, and I'm almost lynched? Damn.

Well, I guess I should defend myself.

Even though people keep saying I didn't vote last turn, I did. I voted for Patrat, and I never changed my vote. For some reason, no one counted it.
At this point voting for Patrat is about the same as not voting.

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Also, I believe Mestizio defended me so much during those few periods was not because I was possibly on her team, but because SK had become an easy target. SK had voted callously and with little of anything to back her up. Mestizio saw an 'easy kill' and decided to heap onto that. And as you could see, it almost worked. The last vote was really between SK and Mestizio, and SK's choice to vote with little evidence was an easy target for the Don to pick at.
I see your point, but you're merely offering another alternative mind, the point on Mestizio defending you still stands, because we're faced with two alternatives here: Either you are a mafia, and Mestizio defended you to keep you in the game, or you're a townie, and Mestizio defended you to ensure a kill. Depends on what we want to believe, honestly.

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Also, there is a pattern I'm starting to notice which was brought up earlier. Someone made a post saying that some of the big players were Mestizio, PsychoMantis, Nique, WanderingGod, and I. Mestizio was the Don, so they wouldn't go after her. However, she's dead. Well, Nique is dead. Now, someone is trying to set me up. So, if I do get lynched, that will mean three of the five will be gone. Seem a little suspicious? As if the mafia were trying to get rid of that group? And with so many votes for me and little amount of people defending me, it seems interesting that the number for me grew so quickly. Just something to think about.
The mafia might be trying to get rid of the group, except that if they do do that, eventually someone would figure it out. Doesn't seem like a very safe choice for the mafia. There's equal chance that you're a mafiate and Nique was killed because the mafia wanted to. Furthumore, until I'm otherwise convinced, the votes for you snowballed because everyone was jumping on the bandwagon, and any action otherwise could result in raising suspicions(for me anyway). Mestizio defending you doesn't help your case either.

At this point I'd say that there is a 55% chance of Raiden being a mafiate, and 45% chance that Raiden is a townie. Nonetheless, my gut feeling tips me in the way of Raiden remaining a mafiate.

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Unread 01-15-2006, 05:57 AM   #296
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Psycho Mantis you have to vote for Raiden. He tried to set you up.

Remember, when you first posted about searching through the body? Raiden made an accusation against you. The mafia was trying to make it look like someone was suspicous. You, Psycho, took the bait. On some evidence, you were the first to vote for Newb, were you not? Then, right after, the next two votes were Mestizo (a known mafiate), Major Blood (a highly suspcoious person who I think is a mafiate), then Patrat, who it's hard to know with.

The mafia knew that Newb was innocent. So instead of starting the vote, they made him look suspicous so that anyone paranoid about that sort of thing would vote. Then, right after, a couple of mafia guys follow suit. This starts the ball rolling, and if the person who first accuses is smart (like Psycho), it makes the other guy look guility. After we find out Newb is innocent, the first person to vote looks the guiltiest. Especially if the reason for accusation was kinda slim. Who were the first votes to go to you before you proved your innocence? I don't have to repost those I'm sure. So, they picked another fall guy. Silly Kitty.

And I have something to say about ghosts posting.

DON'T!

That's against the rules and you know your arguments could sway others. Even the innocent aren't allowed to influence. You're dead. No major posting, no spam. Stop. I'm talking to you Mestizo and Nique.

EDIT: I am publicly asking for the bodyguard to protect me this coming night. If I am true that is. I am sure that if we combine our findings, we can convince everyone who Mestizo and Raiden were collaberating with.
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Unread 01-15-2006, 11:20 AM   #297
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Unread 01-15-2006, 11:54 AM   #298
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After reading Raiden's post I'm not completly sure of his guilt... I just have this bad feeling that its sorta like what happened with me. So, I'm not gonna unvote you just yet Raiden.

The people I'm FoSing right now are, Patrat, SecretSkull, Major_blood, and Psycho Mantis. I know Patrat has been defending me and all, but he didn't vote for Mestizio when everyone else did. *shrug* Sorry Pat.
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Unread 01-15-2006, 12:09 PM   #299
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Psycho Mantis you have to vote for Raiden. He tried to set you up.

Remember, when you first posted about searching through the body? Raiden made an accusation against you. The mafia was trying to make it look like someone was suspicous. You, Psycho, took the bait. On some evidence, you were the first to vote for Newb, were you not? Then, right after, the next two votes were Mestizo (a known mafiate), Major Blood (a highly suspcoious person who I think is a mafiate), then Patrat, who it's hard to know with.
Yes, I made an accusation against him. At that point, we had nothing to go on who we should vote for. So, I saw a person that RPed the fact that he rummaged through a dead body, and I thought that looked very suspicious.

On the second day, I said I don't think Psycho was a mafiate. By that time, we had more to go on, so what he RPed had little significance.

Plus, I never voted for Newb, so whatever point you were trying to make in getting that to convict me, I don't see it.

And some of you people are trying a little too hard to convict me, even going so far as saying that other people have to vote for me. Like I'm more of a threat than a single mafia member. Now, why would a small group, a group that could easily fit in the numbers of the mafia group, go to such great lengths to get me killed with very little to back up your votes?
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Unread 01-15-2006, 12:23 PM   #300
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Yes, I made an accusation against him. At that point, we had nothing to go on who we should vote for. So, I saw a person that RPed the fact that he rummaged through a dead body, and I thought that looked very suspicious.

On the second day, I said I don't think Psycho was a mafiate. By that time, we had more to go on, so what he RPed had little significance.

Plus, I never voted for Newb, so whatever point you were trying to make in getting that to convict me, I don't see it.

And some of you people are trying a little too hard to convict me, even going so far as saying that other people have to vote for me. Like I'm more of a threat than a single mafia member. Now, why would a small group, a group that could easily fit in the numbers of the mafia group, go to such great lengths to get me killed with very little to back up your votes?
The truth is, is that it could have been anyone who first pointed the finger. But it was you, Raiden. And I meant that Psycho was the first to vote. Maybe every mafia member didn't vote. Maybe you would have voted for Newb had it not snowballed like it did. And your accusation against Patrat could be a distraction tactic.

And the reason you changed your mind? He obviously defended himself too well. So you switched targets. Otherwise, why would Psycho almost get hung twice?

And the reason some are so gung-ho to vote for you? Once we have two mafia members, it would be much easier to figure out the rest. Beyond a reasonable doubt? Maybe not, but from what I read, you are THE most likely mafia member.

EDIT: Define "very little". It wasn't just once or twice Mestizo defended you. And putting it in that light, I was able to put together an idea of what happened at the start of the game. Check out my previous post talking about Psycho Mantis. Ever see, The Wizard of Oz? I'm going to paraphrase a quote. "A suspcious person is not judged by how they act, but by how others act towards and around them." Or, I could just say guilt by association.

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