Soldiers of Light: Mafia

[Truce]

Vote: Fenris

Reasons already mentioned by others aside, the fact that you went after the person least likely to be a threat was the most counter productive thing that anybody in this game has done, and that's enough cause for me to cast my vote for you.

[Fenris]

If there is anything that I have learned from this it's that when I argue, I dig myself a deeper hole.

I'm done arguing.

[P-Sleazy]

If its 15 to lynch then why did IHMN get lynched with only 12 votes or am I counting wrong?

Major Blood, no offense, but I'm sorry, I just can't take that statement as being true of your being a Townie, Town Aligned due to the also possible fact that you're a Mafiate roleclaiming an innocent role.

[Major Blood]

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

If there is anything that I have learned from this it's that when I argue, I dig myself a deeper hole.

I'm done arguing.

Good plan. I personally don't think your mafia so i wont turn my suspision on you till i see where SK's loyalties lay.

EDIT -

Originally Posted by B_real_shadows

If its 15 to lynch then why did IHMN get lynched with only 12 votes or am I counting wrong?

We reached the time limit and he had the most votes.

[Ferix Stader]

Firstly, hello everyone.

Alright. Finished reading archives again. I... can't vote for FenrisWolf.

This is for two reasons. One, well, he's a dead man anyway (unless my second point convinces you guys). Whether he's Mafia or someone else (Why do I want to believe FenrisWolf is the Imposter?), we'll know when he's killed.

I mean, I missed the -five Mafia- mention in Mesden's Nightpost involving The_Wandering_God when I was going through it... ...although I did notice TWG mention it in post 187, so that's no defense. Honestly, Fenris? Why'd you vote for him? If all five Mafia peeps were there against him, as he pointed out, what else could he be but innocent?

However, the second reason I can't vote for you is this. I can't believe the Mafia would be so silly as to try and lynch the person they just tried to kill. Doubly counterproductive (as other people would seem to be more of a threat), triply so if the BG goes for him again.

You may be Vigilante or Imposter or even Clan Leader, but right now I can't help but think there's bigger fish to fry. So I'm going to just keep an eye on this for now, and pull out my vote after reading through a few more times.

EDIT: Forgot to finish my first sentence. Bleah. Going to bed.

EDIT THE SECOND: Also forgot that I deleted a reason because it was an erroneous argument (more than the rest of this, I'm sure). Thus renumbered arguments.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Ferix Stader

If all five Mafia peeps were there against him, as he pointed out, what else could he be but innocent?

I too missed that in Mesden's post.

[Ferix Stader]

I kinda guessed that, but then you had to miss it again in TWG's post on it (187). Which is where I caught onto it while catching up.

Still, saving vote for a (believed) actual Mafia member: I still can't believe the Mafia would try to rally everyone to kill the innocent man, and the Mafia doesn't need a scapegoat yet, not this early.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Ferix Stader

I kinda guessed that, but then you had to miss it again in TWG's post on it (187). Which is where I caught onto it while catching up.

Didn't I unvote him shortly before or thereafter?

Right now I'm trying to keep myself alive.

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

After a short bout of internet trouble (and sleep when I had no internet), and a moderate bout of mulling things over... I have come to a few conclusions.

The most recent, and most blatant: FenrisWolf

Towards the beginning of the game, I got the feeling that Fenris was a mason, and right now, the vibe is that he’s a mason who sucks at defending himself.

However, the far more logical process of thought is that he’s a mafioid.

My first reaction to him was to think he was a mason, because at the time, he seemed, to me, to be responding in a way that he had more information, on some level, than the average person involved. However, looking back, he seemed to be generally against lynching or moving within the first day, though not as much as SK proved to be to draw the attention she has for it.

He also defended SK at the time. SK who has, in fact, reciprocated. SK who has, in fact, acted somewhat suspiciously.

And considering they’ve both made choices that seem to actively be a detriment to us, I can’t ignore this ‘relationship’, as it were.

Silly Kitty See: above. Really, they seem intertwined and generally have made some poor choices. Not too connected, really... but it would take a horrible mafia to clique themselves together. Also, she may be trying to act nice so as to keep people from wanting to vote for or suspect her... a move which has, thus far, proven to be failing, at least in the face of The_Wandering_God. (You know, the one the mafia tried to hit... YEAH!)

Going down the list of FOS’s and Votes in no particular order:

Catlover Acting generally suspicious to me, and jumping on the bandwagon whenever possible, it seems. Even though I agree with him about DarthMauler, I just don’t trust the way he’s been acting. B_Real, who has been making some sense to me (god help me) has suspected him, and TheSpacePope has noticed something up.

So him, I don’t trust either.

Arhra Popping out to vote people, and making a somewhat suspicious offhand comment. Really, “Trust me, I’m Arhra” is an oxymoron if anything is... but I suspect that was just Arhra being Arhra. I just don’t see any legitimate reason to focus on him just yet.

Rhiya Ravenwing I can see what she was saying might seem suspicious, but what I thought she meant was that The_Wandering_God can’t simply be discounted as harmless just yet. Which, no matter the odds, is true.

Weird, specious, and unlikely reasoning aside (considering it’s the kind of reasoning that reigns here) I don’t really see a reason to pursue this just yet, but my eyes will be open.

DarthMauler Still don’t trust. Illogical references to faulty counting aside, I get a feeling that his Jeremiahcron-hood isn’t to be taken at face value. Something like, he’s trying to pretend he doesn’t know what’s going on, since he’ll be less likely to be suspected.

Didn’t really work, but whatever.

And there’s little, if anything, to back this up... so I can’t really logically commit to pushing forward with this line of reasoning.

Secretskull He was FOSed, I don’t recall exactly why... and I’ve not seen anything that makes me suspicious of him... so I’ll just move on.

sk3L3t0n For defending Arhra I believe. I can’t honestly say I see anything in this... and what’s more, his FOS was withdrawn from what I recorded. So, I’ll move on once more...

Newb He was voted for because he’s confusing and trying to make sense of watching people PM one another in ‘Who’s Online’, I believe. At least that’s what I got from his post. I don’t see anything there, so I move on.

The_Wandering_God Who Fenris voted for. It’s not a good idea to discount him entirely, I think. There’s some chance that he’s the CL or something, but it’s almost embarrassingly small. He may also have a somewhat detrimental secret role too, but again, small chance and leap of logic to assume that he has one and that we can effectively presume to be able to guess that it’s bad.

In short, because TWG is about as inconspicuous as this:

...we know he’s not a mafioid or imposter. And voting for him isn’t prudent.

Which leads me to my conclusion...

Vote: FenrisWolf

And a somewhat heaping helping of glare directed at Silly Kitty. I’d FOS her, but it’s probably better to pick one battle at a time.

[GARUD]

Originally Posted by Ferix Strader

However, the second reason I can't vote for you is this. I can't believe the Mafia would be so silly as to try and lynch the person they just tried to kill. Doubly counterproductive (as other people would seem to be more of a threat), triply so if the BG goes for him again.

Not necessarily true. We now know that he is innocent, so no matter what happens, we may not end up voting for him in the long run so that he has proven his innocence. He's as good as dead, because he is the only one that we truly cleared.