Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 323

Loyal · 12-12-2010, 08:21 PM

It happened, because Vriska made it happen, because it had already happened, because Vriska made it happen, because it had already happened, because Vriska made it happen, etcetera.

No matter how you slice it, however inevitable it was, Vriska is still responsible.

...Vriska is Lord English.

POS Industries · 12-12-2010, 08:22 PM

Well, technically, Vriska (along with the other trolls) is God. It's just that she's the only one actually playing the role.

Aldurin · 12-12-2010, 08:25 PM

It's all Aradia's fault for not having the prudence to kill Vriska twice, or at least damage the part of her brain that gives her that power.

Krylo · 12-12-2010, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loyal

It happened, because Vriska made it happen, because it had already happened, because Vriska made it happen, because it had already happened, because Vriska made it happen, etcetera.

No matter how you slice it, however inevitable it was, Vriska is still responsible.

...Vriska is Lord English.

Actually it's more like Vriska made it happen because it had already happened, etc. etc.

Had it not already happened, Vriska wouldn't have felt the need to be the one responsible for it, and thus wouldn't have done it, and therefore it wouldn't have happened, thus Vriska wouldn't have felt the need to be the one responsible, etc.

Vriska may seem like the start of the time loop, but there is no actual start. Both events--Bec Noir's Entrance, and Vriska's Weird Time Shit--relied on the other. Both happened only as a direct result of the other.

Also, what POS said at the end of the last page. The kids are only alive because of Vriska making Bec.

Dracorion · 12-12-2010, 08:46 PM

Honest to God, when all this shit blows up in Vriska's face, hopefully literally, I will smile like a smug son of a bitch.

Like Tavros in this page. Sick fires optional.

That being said:

>Tavros: Engage Hero Mode
ENGAGE HERO MODE NOW DO IT
BOY YOU ENGAGE HERO MODE RIGHT THIS INSTANT
ENGAGE HERO MODE ENGAGE HERO MODE ENGAGE HERO MODE

Fifthfiend · 12-12-2010, 08:52 PM

Even if you excuse Vriska's moral culpability for the known, supposedly inevitable results of her actions, which you can't*, that still doesn't change that she does them in the shittiest, most douchey, manipulative, likely-to-get-people-killed manner possible, which has fuck-all to do with her predestination.

And regardless of how you interpret the beginning or end or whatever of the time loop, the entire thing unavoidably hinges on the fact that Vriska is a terrible person who, presented with a set of terrible options, will enthusiastically carry them out, for the sake of feeding her insane, terrible-person ego.

*Or I mean you can but like I've said, I don't know why anyone would keep reading this comic, since at that point it's not a story about characters and events and meaning, it's just a series of drawings of God jacking off.

POS Industries · 12-12-2010, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

likely-to-get-people-killed manner possible

It's still killing less people than if she acted differently!

But yeah, she's a completely terrible person.

Krylo · 12-12-2010, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

*Or I mean you can but like I've said, I don't know why anyone would keep reading this comic, since at that point it's not a story about characters and events and meaning, it's just a series of drawings of God jacking off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krylo

Edit: P.S. This is why I don't like the whole 'all time loops must be perfectly stable' version of time travel in my fiction. It removes all pretense of choice or free will from the characters.

Mostly, I'm reading it because Rose seems to be of the opinion that she has a way to fuck over the stable time loop system via Green Sun death.

Dracorion · 12-12-2010, 09:10 PM

Funny how we're all calling Vriska a horrible monster but at least she's trying not to make any splinter timelines.

Terezi, on the other hand, went and sent John straight through his seventh gate even though she knew there was a risk she'd end up making a splintered timeline. So she's responsible for the "deaths" of everyone in Davesprite's timeline.

That being said, I really do honestly hope Vriska dies before the end because goddammit she's terrible.

Bard The 5th LW · 12-12-2010, 09:13 PM

Well we do have some pretty decent confirmation that shit is about to go down for her. Particularly, she plans on going head to head against Jack.

12-12-2010, 08:22 PM	#3222
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	Well, technically, Vriska (along with the other trolls) is God. It's just that she's the only one actually playing the role. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

12-12-2010, 08:46 PM	#3225
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Honest to God, when all this shit blows up in Vriska's face, hopefully literally, I will smile like a smug son of a bitch. Like Tavros in this page. Sick fires optional. That being said: >Tavros: Engage Hero Mode ENGAGE HERO MODE NOW DO IT BOY YOU ENGAGE HERO MODE RIGHT THIS INSTANT ENGAGE HERO MODE ENGAGE HERO MODE ENGAGE HERO MODE __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

12-12-2010, 08:52 PM	#3226
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	Even if you excuse Vriska's moral culpability for the known, supposedly inevitable results of her actions, which you can't, that still doesn't change that she does them in the shittiest, most douchey, manipulative, likely-to-get-people-killed manner possible, which has fuck-all to do with her predestination. And regardless of how you interpret the beginning or end or whatever of the time loop, the entire thing unavoidably hinges on the fact that Vriska is a terrible person who, presented with a set of terrible options, will enthusiastically carry them out, for the sake of feeding her insane, terrible-person ego. Or I mean you can but like I've said, I don't know why anyone would keep reading this comic, since at that point it's not a story about characters and events and meaning, it's just a series of drawings of God jacking off. __________________ check out my buttspresso Last edited by Fifthfiend; 12-12-2010 at 09:05 PM.

12-12-2010, 09:10 PM	#3229
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Funny how we're all calling Vriska a horrible monster but at least she's trying not to make any splinter timelines. Terezi, on the other hand, went and sent John straight through his seventh gate even though she knew there was a risk she'd end up making a splintered timeline. So she's responsible for the "deaths" of everyone in Davesprite's timeline. That being said, I really do honestly hope Vriska dies before the end because goddammit she's terrible. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

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12-12-2010, 08:25 PM	#3223
Aldurin Lakitu Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,648	It's all Aradia's fault for not having the prudence to kill Vriska twice, or at least damage the part of her brain that gives her that power.

12-12-2010, 09:13 PM	#3230
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	Well we do have some pretty decent confirmation that shit is about to go down for her. Particularly, she plans on going head to head against Jack.