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Unread 12-17-2010, 01:26 AM   #3421
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Assuming Tavros can control Noir, then that means Vriska can control Noir too (double psychic reacharound).

But really, Tavros' ability is to "commune". The reason he can control animals is because he can talk to them and convince them that the thing he wants them to do should be done. If he tried to commune with anything with more sentience/language like Noir, then I'm not sure if it's any different from if Tavros just talked to him regularly. It's not impossible, though.

But yeah if Tavros can control anything then that means Vriska can control it too.

i mean sure maybe tavros won't get mindcontrolled if he can grow a spine but ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Unread 12-17-2010, 01:32 AM   #3422
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Tavros can control animals at least as powerful as Bec.
Tavros communes with animals. He's basically able to communicate with them, and is really good at convincing them to help him. Being persuasive in some way is a Breath thing, and he's the Page of Breath.

It might be possible that he could be more dominating, but it seems like that would go against the nature of his power. Even with the imps, he himself said that he was asking not telling, and put limits on what he'd ask them to do.

Also we have no idea if his power worked on Bec beyond simply alerting the dog to Jade's plight.

But all I'm saying is that if he pulled something like flat out dominating Bec Noir, it would be something new, not just a natural application of what he's already done.
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Unread 12-17-2010, 02:19 AM   #3423
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Unread 12-17-2010, 02:31 AM   #3424
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Maybe Tavros has the exact same power as Vriska(In regards to animals), but his being a bitch-ass means he only ever makes suggestions...
Edit: Didn't we just have this conversation and conclude that because he used Terezi's Dragon to do something it certainly wouldn't want to do, he had full-on control?
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Unread 12-17-2010, 05:07 AM   #3425
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Maybe Tavros has the exact same power as Vriska(In regards to animals), but his being a bitch-ass means he only ever makes suggestions...
Edit: Didn't we just have this conversation and conclude that because he used Terezi's Dragon to do something it certainly wouldn't want to do, he had full-on control?
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Tavros seems to be able to take full control of the creatures he "communes" with, as is evident both because of Terezi's lusus and because of the army of various Imps and Ogres he had with him earlier. Vriska's control over Jack is likely limited or nonexistent, since it has already been demonstrated that she can merely put John and the others to sleep because she cannot exert full control over their alien brains. At this point, Jack has got to be far enough from being whatever he was that through brain differences (or sheer force of will, being omniscient/omnipotent) she cannot control him herself. Tavros, however, has demonstrated the ability to control things that are not only a very wide variety of animals and beasts, but even things that are remotely similar to them, such as Becquerel.

As for the theory Tavros may use Jack to kill Vriska, I don't completely doubt it. Sure, hypothetically Vriska may try to control Jack through Tavros as she did before with Terezi's lusus, if it came down to a confrontation of any kind between Tavros and Vriska, I think her arrogance would compel her to refrain from mind-controlling Tavros and making the fight too easy.

EDIT: Hasn't been an update in 2 days. Is the basement slave taking some kind of holiday break, or is there a chance we have another flashy animation coming?

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Unread 12-17-2010, 07:47 AM   #3426
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Given that Tarvos' power is called "Communing" I'm betting it's still just talking to them. I don't think you could use Terezi's dragon Lusus as an example because Terezi lost her sight because she realized she didn't want to see (in the conversation that started here). I could be wrong about that though, I'm still not sure how Vriska knew she'd be getting back at Terezi.

The imps are a more interesting example, but we've seen more simple forms of persuasion work on people, so I don't see why he couldn't do something like that, were he persistent enough about it.

Edit: Also I'm thinking if it's taking this long for an update we're waiting for a flash update to end Act 5 Part 2. But that's just wild speculation.

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Unread 12-17-2010, 03:17 PM   #3427
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Unread 12-17-2010, 03:32 PM   #3428
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Unread 12-17-2010, 03:54 PM   #3429
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Its incredibly old.

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Unread 12-17-2010, 05:15 PM   #3430
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I must say that this is probably the weirdest shit I have ever read. Just got to Act 3.

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