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Unread 12-19-2010, 03:59 PM   #3511
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Feferi visits the Furthest Ring when she sleeps, but that may be because her current body is her dream self now.
Her dream self died when Jack blew up Derse. She was asleep at the time, and wouldn't wake up.

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We know Karkat never reached the god tiers, and that's because his dream self didn't wake up until the last moment.
We don't know that he never reached the god tiers and we don't know that waking up is necessary to reach the god tiers. Likely as that stuff seems, the only thing that has been said is that you have to sleep on your quest bed. And that's been said by an unreliable source. Karkat hardly slept during their adventure. He still did sleep. That said, out of all the trolls, he seems like the most likely to have not hit the god tiers.

Karkat's lines in the playable segment imply pretty strongly that most dream selves were still kicking before Jack blew shit up. Karkat's conversation with Feferi flat out states that her dream self is still alive. Vriska tells us that Terezi never lost hers, Tavros was there when Jack attacked, and I'm pretty sure there was a line about Nepeta's dream self too.

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I think the only other one we know can't reach the god tiers is Aradia.
We don't really know that. Aradia is such a special case, being a ghost/kernelsprite/robot that it's pretty much impossible to tell which rules apply to her and which ones don't.

Edit: Duuuur, Jack attacked, not Lord English. Slip of the internet tongue.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 04:10 PM   #3512
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Seeing as she doesn't have her original body back, it seems unlikely that she's God Tier.

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Unread 12-19-2010, 04:17 PM   #3513
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We don't even know for sure whether, if you do die, that it has to be on the quest bed. Possibly if you died before hand, and your corpse was taken to the quest bed then that would be enough to trigger the transformation, which could be how Vriska managed it. Maybe we'll be shown how the trolls who reached their god tiers did so, to clarify what conditions it can occur under.

Also, I'm starting to get the feeling that Vriska is going to use her powers to wake Dave up before future Dave can kill him in order to fuck things up for him in some way.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 05:17 PM   #3514
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Also, I'm starting to get the feeling that Vriska is going to use her powers to wake Dave up before future Dave can kill him in order to fuck things up for him in some way.
Yeah. Yeah, I can see that happening, actually.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 06:49 PM   #3515
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But if that's the god tier Dave then she couldn't have, because that would cause a splinter timeline.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 06:53 PM   #3516
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We don't know that it's God Tier Dave. For all we know, Dave went there to stab himself so when he woke up he'd see himself about to stab himself because that's what happened and he didn't want to create a splinter timeline. Unlikely, but time shit is weird.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 06:54 PM   #3517
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But if that's the god tier Dave then she couldn't have, because that would cause a splinter timeline.
That's god tier Dave?
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Unread 12-19-2010, 07:02 PM   #3518
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I think Dave just thought that he should probably go there just because thats what he should do, and if he does that everything'll probably shake out just fine. Part of the beauty of not making splinter timelines is shooting from the hip and taking things as they come, not overthinking it or planning too far ahead.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 07:38 PM   #3519
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Karkat and Tavros both woke up on Prospit when Bec Noir destroyed it, not the battlefield. I don't think they did the god tier stuff.
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