Knife of Dreams (Book 11 of the 10000000 Book Series) - Page 4

Magus · 10-20-2006, 09:16 PM

I said Mazrim Taim was set up by the Black Ajah. He cannot be Black Ajah because he's a guy, so I just denoted that he's Black Asha'man. But anyway, yeah, I know, he's a darkfriend. He says "Let the Lord of Chaos rule" at the end of another novel, too. As for which Forsaken he is, supposedly Jordan has said he is not, but I doubt that Jordan actually said that. If he is a Forsaken, he's DEMANDRED. They look exactly the same, you see. He and Osan'gar were both sent "to watch what Rand Al'thor did" and Osan'gar (aka Dashiva) botched it, of course, but I assume Demandred is Taim. Although then again that kind of works agains it, because Taim is stuck in the Black Tower, although then again that must be why they said he was doing a poor job of watching Rand. Err. So anyway, yeah. As for the hall of Moridin's colors, Moridin's colors are black and red, and the hall was all white with black columns, so that's not a good connection. So if any Forsaken is Taim, it's Demandred.

Anyway, Jordan being a man he probably figured all of his female characters had to be She-Woman Man Haters or he'd be considered like you know sexist or something, or cliche, or whatever. You know what I mean.

Kei-Kun · 10-21-2006, 02:17 AM

Taimandred doesnt exist (that's what a lot of people call Taim/Demandred) RJ has denied it profusely. I want to say Taim is Moridin, but I don't know why. =/

Tiako · 10-21-2006, 02:21 PM

Spoiler: Unless I am mixing names, than Moridan is almost certainly Ishmael. End.

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If he is a Forsaken, he's DEMANDRED.

That was debunked at the end of WH, because Demandred said he didn't recognize one of the most powerful Asha'man as such. End.

As for Elayne, it is true she is the most stuck up, Nynaeve is the biggest bitch, and I sometimes question Aviendha's intelligence. However, only Elayne combines those three properties into the feared Stupid Stuck Up Bitch.

None can oppose her without wanting desperately to kill her. And the worst part is that I really like Gawyn.

Kei-Kun · 10-21-2006, 08:03 PM

Begin. Mordin is most definatly Ishamael. End.
(Just to be safe: Spoiler) And I like Galad more than Gawyn, mostly because of the prolouge. I wanna know what he's going to do with the Children of the Light now that he's Lord Captain Commander (ain't that a mouthful? >.< ) (End Spoilie)

Magus · 10-22-2006, 12:11 AM

I want to see the development between Rand and Galad, you know, since they're half-brothers. Probably wouldn't amount to much, though, if Jordan even has them ever bring it up in his 9000 page ending novel.

Sesshoumaru · 10-22-2006, 06:25 PM

It might just be me, but I really want to see the Seanchan use a great cannon on Tar Valons 'shining walls' cause that would be just awsome, especially if it involved some kind of primitive napalm shell.

Demetrius · 10-24-2006, 12:08 AM

I'm looking forward to Mat wooping ass on just about everyone, not to mention being married to the new Empress, and the Horn is gonna come out... but on whose side? I must also give the obligatory mention of the giving up half the light of the world to save the other half. And of course there is always the question of how Rand will manage to kill Lews Therin and save his own butt... gyahh!! I've just reread the series for the 23rd time and I'm going nuts waiting for the next book!!

gurusloth · 10-24-2006, 01:20 AM

Demetrius, that prophecy regarding Mat and him giving up half the light of the world to save the world is in regards to him plucking out one of his own eyes at some point in the future. Just so you know.

Kei-Kun · 10-24-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gurusloth

Demetrius, that prophecy regarding Mat and him giving up half the light of the world to save the world is in regards to him plucking out one of his own eyes at some point in the future. Just so you know.

Indeed. In true Odin fashion. That's what I love about Mat, he has so many parallels with Odin (Norse God for the unenlightened)

Also, Mat is probably going to use the dragons and dragons eggs to totally screw the Dark One over in the final battle. Also, I can see Rand having tanks because that one guy re-invented the steam engine. And does anyone share my belife that the Aes Sedai came about from America and Russian fighting a nuklear war, so the radiation changed people and caused a reccession of technology? Because they mention "Merc and Mark fighting with firey missles spears"(missles). That would be cool Fin.

Gascmark de Leone · 10-24-2006, 06:42 PM

I hope he manages to finish it off before it turns into another Dark Tower.

10-20-2006, 09:16 PM	#31
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	I said Mazrim Taim was set up by the Black Ajah. He cannot be Black Ajah because he's a guy, so I just denoted that he's Black Asha'man. But anyway, yeah, I know, he's a darkfriend. He says "Let the Lord of Chaos rule" at the end of another novel, too. As for which Forsaken he is, supposedly Jordan has said he is not, but I doubt that Jordan actually said that. If he is a Forsaken, he's DEMANDRED. They look exactly the same, you see. He and Osan'gar were both sent "to watch what Rand Al'thor did" and Osan'gar (aka Dashiva) botched it, of course, but I assume Demandred is Taim. Although then again that kind of works agains it, because Taim is stuck in the Black Tower, although then again that must be why they said he was doing a poor job of watching Rand. Err. So anyway, yeah. As for the hall of Moridin's colors, Moridin's colors are black and red, and the hall was all white with black columns, so that's not a good connection. So if any Forsaken is Taim, it's Demandred. Anyway, Jordan being a man he probably figured all of his female characters had to be She-Woman Man Haters or he'd be considered like you know sexist or something, or cliche, or whatever. You know what I mean. Last edited by Magus; 10-20-2006 at 09:45 PM.

10-21-2006, 02:17 AM	#32
Kei-Kun Insanity is Relative Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: My Mind Posts: 40	Taimandred doesnt exist (that's what a lot of people call Taim/Demandred) RJ has denied it profusely. I want to say Taim is Moridin, but I don't know why. =/ __________________ "Insanity is the only sanity." "IMHO, there is to LITTLE war. I want to see some damn chaos in this game, and by golly I will have it!" ~Me~ .:\|RaiRO Character\|:. Wizzardeh: Moridin (73/42) ~Moridin do be the Desciple of Loki, killing for the Land Pirates! Arrr...~

10-21-2006, 08:03 PM	#34
Kei-Kun Insanity is Relative Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: My Mind Posts: 40	Begin. Mordin is most definatly Ishamael. End. (Just to be safe: Spoiler) And I like Galad more than Gawyn, mostly because of the prolouge. I wanna know what he's going to do with the Children of the Light now that he's Lord Captain Commander (ain't that a mouthful? >.< ) (End Spoilie) __________________ "Insanity is the only sanity." "IMHO, there is to LITTLE war. I want to see some damn chaos in this game, and by golly I will have it!" ~Me~ .:\|RaiRO Character\|:. Wizzardeh: Moridin (73/42) ~Moridin do be the Desciple of Loki, killing for the Land Pirates! Arrr...~

10-22-2006, 06:25 PM	#36
Sesshoumaru Tyrannus Rex Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 616	It might just be me, but I really want to see the Seanchan use a great cannon on Tar Valons 'shining walls' cause that would be just awsome, especially if it involved some kind of primitive napalm shell. __________________ "The Second Amendment is about ensuring the rights of the citizen to be armed, despite [not at] the whims of government or State bureaucracy" "Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready." -Theodore Roosevelt: San Francisco CA, May 13, 1903 "We are all citizens, not a one among us is a serf, and we damn well better remember it"

10-24-2006, 12:08 AM	#37
Demetrius In need of a vacation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Vermont Posts: 3,236	I'm looking forward to Mat wooping ass on just about everyone, not to mention being married to the new Empress, and the Horn is gonna come out... but on whose side? I must also give the obligatory mention of the giving up half the light of the world to save the other half. And of course there is always the question of how Rand will manage to kill Lews Therin and save his own butt... gyahh!! I've just reread the series for the 23rd time and I'm going nuts waiting for the next book!! __________________ DFM, Demon seed of Hell who fuels its incredible power by butchering little girls and feeding on their innocence. Demetrius, Dark clown of the netherworld, a being of incalculable debauchery and a soulless, faceless evil as old as time itself. Zilla, The chick. ~DFM Wii bishie bishie kawaii baka! ~ Fifthfiend

10-22-2006, 12:11 AM	#35
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	I want to see the development between Rand and Galad, you know, since they're half-brothers. Probably wouldn't amount to much, though, if Jordan even has them ever bring it up in his 9000 page ending novel.

10-24-2006, 01:20 AM	#38
gurusloth Master of muthafu�%in' invisibility Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,224	Demetrius, that prophecy regarding Mat and him giving up half the light of the world to save the world is in regards to him plucking out one of his own eyes at some point in the future. Just so you know. __________________ Mashirosen: I personally will not rest until I have turned NPF into ___________I"My Little Pony Collector's E-Snuggle Social Club - No Boys Allowed"

10-24-2006, 06:42 PM	#40
Gascmark de Leone Intercourse the Penguins! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Land of Wuz Posts: 326	I hope he manages to finish it off before it turns into another Dark Tower. __________________ At the end of the day there's another day dawning And the sun in the morning is waiting to rise Like the waves crash on the sand Like a storm that'll break any second There's a hunger in the land There's a reckoning still to be reckoned and There's gonna be hell to pay At the end of the day! Les Miserables

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