I like dubs!

[Stabbitty Death]

I hate it when they cast voice actors for children that sound like adults even though they're like, six or something.

If it hasn't been said, Love Hina and Spirited Away show dubbing at its finest.

[Priest4hire]

Originally Posted by Hobo2323

If it hasn't been said, Love Hina and Spirited Away show dubbing at its finest.

Spirited Away almost seems a given. Disney has been doing voice casting and getting great performances far longer than any Anime studio in existance.

[Rhianwen]

Originally Posted by Priest4hire

I should point out that there is no such thing as a purely literal translation. Such a thing can not exist. Some words don't translate; sometimes there are other meanings in a word or phrase other than the literal meaning, and so on. If you translated Japanese to English literally, there would be almost no pronouns for example.

Exactly, and that's the reason I'll watch either, but tend to prefer the dub. In my mind, a translation is still a translation, whether it's dubbed over or written at the bottom of the screen. I suppose you are getting a more exact translation with a sub, but...yeah. If I'm not mistaken, nuances will be lost either way. And since I don't care enough about getting every nuance in an anime to go learn Japanese fluently, I'll lose a bit more in translation and watch the dub. Unless the dub is really bad. Or one voice just generally irks me. Dilandau in Escaflowne springs immediately to mind...as does Shinji in Evangelion. I liked most of the rest of the Evangelion dub voices (Misato and Ritsuko alone made me keep watching the dub), but Shinji made me want to drop the TV on my head until the pain stopped. Of course, the other option would have been to turn off the durned TV and do something productive, but...I'm not too good at that.

I also agree with Outbounder that it's nice to be able to hear the sarcasm and other expression in the VA's voice, and that this can be lost if you don't speak the language, unless it's really obvious. Psychotically angry, it's pretty easy to tell. Kind of depressed, however...I've found that I don't know it from more or less satisfied with life. This may be my own stupidity, but it's just what I've found.

And I agree wholeheartedly with Bezo's healthy dislike of fansubs that choose the stupidest possible font. Rrr...

[Outbounder]

Originally Posted by Kenryoku_Maxis

But in effect, doesn't that mean that a sub can actually transcend a dub if the person watching it is use to watching subtitled works? Where as a dub, even if done correctly, still can never get away from the fact that it is using a different voice actor and type of language which ultimately makes the character different?

But isn't that sort of the point? I mean, to radically change a character would be wrong. However, it is good to make the character more identifiable in the culture it is presented in. Changing certain aspects of a character to make it more appealing to different audiences is sort of necessary for the show/movie/whatever be more successful and enjoyable in that setting.

I'm sorry, but I don't think I'm making any sense so I'll stop now.

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

Originally Posted by Outbounder

But isn't that sort of the point? I mean, to radically change a character would be wrong. However, it is good to make the character more identifiable in the culture it is presented in. Changing certain aspects of a character to make it more appealing to different audiences is sort of necessary for the show/movie/whatever be more successful and enjoyable in that setting.

I'm sorry, but I don't think I'm making any sense so I'll stop now.

I can't really say anything in this thread anymore or else I'd give you a really good answer to that question. And it is a good question and many people share it.

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To suggest something per Mashirosen's post on the previous page, if you want to ask me this question you can put it on the Subs topic or PM me about it. I would like to answer it.

[Mashirosen]

Don't push your luck, Kenryoku.

[Vicious]

Hmph, nobody has mentioned the Trigun dubs? I thought they were done pretty damn good... but that's just me...

The only reason I'll watch a dub is if the humor quality in the dub is brought out more (ie Golden Boy, Ai Aori Yoshi ["You can't eat that! That's one of those magical girls!"], etc.) Otherwise I'm a really fast reader so having to read the subtitles doesn't really matter.

Edited by Mashirosen: bye-bye. Come back when your reading comprehension is up to a level where you can understand plainly written rules.