Eclipse Phase: Frosted Glass Discussion

[PhoenixFlame]

Originally Posted by Dracorion

What did Firewall offer her to get her to join up, anyway? Or were they just dicks about it?

The opportunity to help save humanity from certain destruction?

I mean, if you don't want to, you can refuse, but then you wouldn't be in this campaign anyway. That is one of the options in the interest thread, anyway.

On the other topic: Forking and AGIs, but that brings no new egos (merely copies of existing ones) or human egos (merely machines) into the fold. Is that safe? Is it okay? Will it come back to haunt us fifty years down the road? Two hundred?

It's one of the questions of transhumanism, a lot like "Do I die when I farcast?"

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlame

"Do I die when I farcast?"

Yes, and then are reborn from the ashes in a glorious flame of digital resurrection!

[Aerozord]

honestly farcasting reminded me of transporters in star trek, by most definitions it does kill you. But if you dont believe in a "soul" its a mute issue I think.

But using forking and AGIs, from standpoint of my character is atleast a perfectly viable alternative

[Overcast]

Trying not to wax on about the faction that I was lucky enough to get approved but that last question is one of the deciding philosophies that drove the Immortals into existence. Perfect biological immortality is a ludicrous goal to have, but it is a whole lot better than crying yourself insane about if you aren't real.

[PhoenixFlame]

Or if you do believe in a soul, and that it is transferred by means outside our understanding.

I like the idea of Immortals because they have a practical answer to an honest question. Some more morphological freedom'y people might call them bioconservative, but they're not anti-technology, so they're not really radical biocons.

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlame

The opportunity to help save humanity from certain destruction?

I mean, if you don't want to, you can refuse, but then you wouldn't be in this campaign anyway. That is one of the options in the interest thread, anyway.

Well that sucks. It doesn't further Ellen's goals at all!

Still, I guess maybe she's trying to work her way up Firewall. Maybe convince the higher-ups that she'd be better at anything that isn't a sentinel. Because seriously, being a sentinel is crap.

[krogothwolf]

It's interesting, I like the fact that even though near-immortality has been achieved there are still people desiring perfect immortality.\

Drac: Protecting yourself from extinction doesn't further your goals?

[Dracorion]

Not directly! Or immediately!

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlame

Or if you do believe in a soul, and that it is transferred by means outside our understanding.

I like the idea of Immortals because they have a practical answer to an honest question. Some more morphological freedom'y people might call them bioconservative, but they're not anti-technology, so they're not really radical biocons.

I am sure there is a big view on this kind of thing. Personally I'd view it as hedging your bets. Maybe you are just dead forever, but thats something you cant avoid. If you really are immortal using this method, yay, if not and loading a back-up just makes a clone of you, you still dont lose anything. And hey a you is better then no you at all

[krogothwolf]

Dez feeling is along as he is in a morph exploring and getting rich he feels alive, it's as an infomorph he wouldn't feel alive.