Something the Epilogue showed me... - Page 4

ThatPoorMessenger · 06-03-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MSperoni

That quote "How I Killed Your Crock of Shit" is a spin on a line from a show called "Darkplace".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLmjV8JSf4g

go to 45 seconds in

(it's poorly acted on purpose btw)

Blocked on copyright grounds here.

MSperoni · 06-03-2010, 01:09 PM

awww

ThatPoorMessenger · 06-03-2010, 01:13 PM

Must leave the UK, just to watch one video!

rpgdemon · 06-03-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Neni

Thank you... ^^; *blushing a little*
I was going for a Manga Style, because the whole thing (which is actually an yet undrawn comic I have been planning for years) is a half-deconstruction of the Magical Girl genre, but I felt like the length of the limbs are off... But I am convinced that the artist him/herself is always the worst judge for his/her own art, that's why I wanted to know about what it looks like to someone who has, you know, actual skill. XD

Yeah, I heard the anatomy-suggestion a lot yet and guess I should finally get around and do it sometime... but like so often when I want to do something, I somehow just wind up not doing it for no particularly reason... -_-;

As for topics derailing, I think that's actually my fault. I'm a mistress of derailing stuff. I manage to derail everything as soon as I open my mouth or put my fingers to the keyboard. It's like my curse. The curse of verbosity... X-x

You wanna learn how to draw realistically, without style, before trying to learn a style, is the general advice given, I believe.

MSperoni · 06-03-2010, 01:23 PM

Yeah, everyone wants to draw in the style they like first though, that's natural because wherever you got that style is what inspired you to start drawing in the first place. When I first started drawing it was because I liked the art in the video game "Lunar" for Sega CD, and so I emulated that for awhile. Didn't seem to really get anywhere though because I was just focused on the superficial. I guess it's the equivalent of speaking a bunch of words that you think sound cool but you don't yet know the meaning of (like Janglish in Jpop songs).

But still, if you're just drawing casually for fun I dont really think bogging yourself down w/ rules and principles is necessary.. I guess it depends on where you wanna go with it. If you intend to be a professional artist someday then you gotta start learning all that boring stuff sooner or later :P

A Zarkin' Frood · 06-03-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatPoorMessenger

Must leave the UK, just to watch one video!

Darkplace is absolutely worth it.

Proxy.

ThatPoorMessenger · 06-03-2010, 01:32 PM

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But still, if you're just drawing casually for fun I dont really think bogging yourself down w/ rules and principles is necessary.. I guess it depends on where you wanna go with it.

This. For example, were you to attempt to bog yourself down into an uncomfortable art-style for a webcomic, you will strangle it's updates.

Neni · 06-03-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MSperoni

Yeah, everyone wants to draw in the style they like first though, that's natural because wherever you got that style is what inspired you to start drawing in the first place. When I first started drawing it was because I liked the art in the video game "Lunar" for Sega CD, and so I emulated that for awhile. Didn't seem to really get anywhere though because I was just focused on the superficial. I guess it's the equivalent of speaking a bunch of words that you think sound cool but you don't yet know the meaning of (like Janglish in Jpop songs).

Yeah, I quickly noticed that too. I started out trying to draw according to "How to draw XY" articles in Magazines and books, but when none of them turned out looking anything like I wanted, I tried semi-tracing for a while instead, before I noticed certain patterns I would have never seen before, certain shapes I just didn't notice, things about eye-shaping and placement and the like. I tried drawing different styles and over time noticed how everything I tried out contributed to the development of my style. For example, I was drawing eyes horribly wrong because I failed to notice that the lids need to "connect" when expanded. I only noticed that when I drew some Zelda: Wind Waker style characters for a change. Then, I tried drawing some of my collegues and teachers in school and noticed that most of their haistyles actually translate out on paper to what I always considered to be typical Anime-haistyles. Next, I found out how to correctly do a non-awkward looking upper body by examing some Tetsuya Nomura Artwork of Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts... additionally, I examined the poses and, especially, coloring on my favorite pictures on Deviantart or Manga-Illustrations.

...The List continues like this and after some time I kinda pieced together what I can do now. It's not professional, but at least I can draw pictures now that look pleasant to my eye and that... pleases me. (Call the Redundant Department of Redundancy!!)

I guess just learning from one source is useless, because one needs to find what (s)he likes best and can do best, right?

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You wanna learn how to draw realistically, without style, before trying to learn a style, is the general advice given, I believe.

In my last month in school, I drew portraits of all my teachers for a "farewell"-gift and tried to go more for realism than usually. I think this was a good choice, since I learned to draw more face-shapes and hairstyles through this. I, however, failed to draw the eyes any smaller than... approximately Rydia's eyes on my Avatar here. I encountered the same problem before, when I once tried to draw Kairi from KH on-style but couldn't get her eyes "Nomura-size". Everything under "Rydia-size" ends up looking akward and hollow and I don't know why. T-T

...See why I call myself a Mistress of Derailing? I just have to give myself a reason to talk and I'll talk until everyone around me is either asleep or bored to death. X-x

ThatPoorMessenger · 06-03-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Neni

...See why I call myself a Mistress of Derailing? I just have to give myself a reason to talk and I'll talk until everyone around me is either asleep or bored to death. X-x

I'm not asleep or bored. Carry on.

MSperoni · 06-03-2010, 05:20 PM

Seems like you're going about it in a good way, not locking into a specific frame of reference and such.

One of these days things will "click" and you'll get your purely own way of doing things

Took me a long time, then again the resources weren't what they are today (no How to Draw Manga books, no DA for reference, etc) so it might not take as long if you're committed to it

06-03-2010, 01:09 PM	#32
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06-03-2010, 01:23 PM	#35
MSperoni Artist and Writer of Comics Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,666	Yeah, everyone wants to draw in the style they like first though, that's natural because wherever you got that style is what inspired you to start drawing in the first place. When I first started drawing it was because I liked the art in the video game "Lunar" for Sega CD, and so I emulated that for awhile. Didn't seem to really get anywhere though because I was just focused on the superficial. I guess it's the equivalent of speaking a bunch of words that you think sound cool but you don't yet know the meaning of (like Janglish in Jpop songs). But still, if you're just drawing casually for fun I dont really think bogging yourself down w/ rules and principles is necessary.. I guess it depends on where you wanna go with it. If you intend to be a professional artist someday then you gotta start learning all that boring stuff sooner or later :P __________________ I do commissions! So Email me if you'd like anything and we'll work out the details! matts_1104@yahoo.com Follow me on Twitter for Dreadful news and random info! (though mostly it's just me babbling about nerd-stuff) http://twitter.com/#!/mSperoni Check out my Deviant Art page if you'd like to see other pictures I've made! http://exmile.deviantart.com/ Follow The Dreadful on Facebook!

06-03-2010, 05:20 PM	#40
MSperoni Artist and Writer of Comics Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,666	Seems like you're going about it in a good way, not locking into a specific frame of reference and such. One of these days things will "click" and you'll get your purely own way of doing things Took me a long time, then again the resources weren't what they are today (no How to Draw Manga books, no DA for reference, etc) so it might not take as long if you're committed to it __________________ I do commissions! So Email me if you'd like anything and we'll work out the details! matts_1104@yahoo.com Follow me on Twitter for Dreadful news and random info! (though mostly it's just me babbling about nerd-stuff) http://twitter.com/#!/mSperoni Check out my Deviant Art page if you'd like to see other pictures I've made! http://exmile.deviantart.com/ Follow The Dreadful on Facebook!

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06-03-2010, 01:13 PM	#33
ThatPoorMessenger Lurking Good. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: I'll tell you when I know what dimension, time, existence this is. Posts: 192	Must leave the UK, just to watch one video!