Welp, guess I'm not a Metroid fan. (Metroid: Other M related)

[greed]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

The best thing Nintendo could have done with Other M is hire Ted Woolsey to write the game an entire new plot for American audiences that don't like their Metroid jammed full of *what is the feeling of my purpose stars earthspirit rainbows* bullshit.



Thank you for the advance notice, now I can get a head start on assembling a collection of suitable gifs for these posts.

Smarty, check your bathroom for cameras. Well more than you already do for government bugs.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

Ok but anytime anybody in future says anything about games being art I'm going to bring this up and shit on everybody.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Originally Posted by bluestarultor

These things are not mutually exclusive.

Well not exactly but I'm saying if we going to limit artistic expression to avenues of main characters who are good role models we will have to throw out pretty much the entire literary/filmic canon. Every character everywhere is an asshole.
Like having suitable role models doesn't preclude you from being a good piece of work but if it is mandated from the beginning to have role models just because that is just arbitrarily limiting your medium (Lol, postmodernism). The response should be "This character doesn't work in this gme@ not "This character is a bad role model and thus is a bad character".

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

Thank you for the advance notice, now I can get a head start on assembling a collection of suitable gifs for these posts.

That's ok, my response is just going to be Hitler gifs which are much easier to find.

[PyrosNine]

I think a good representation of Samus Aran as a character is a representation of her being a Bounty Hunter who doesn't GIVE A SHIT BECAUSE SHE CAN CURL INTO A BALL AND DESTROY EVERYTHING IN A 100 FOOT RADIUS.

Also where she shows up, tells Adamn she doesn't work for the federation anymore, so he can't tell her what to do, pulls out the screw attack and kills everything, and when the Federation comes to cover up, she blasts them all in the face. Then she and Higgs hold hands and skip over to the space mall and get Cinnabons, have a slumber party, and paint each other's fingernails. And James was dead the very minute the scan visor was used on him. And when Adamn sneaks up behind her with a freeze ray, she does a backflip, kicks the gun out of his hand, and then he inexplicably explodes.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

Well not exactly but I'm saying if we going to limit artistic expression to avenues of main characters who are good role models we will have to throw out pretty much the entire literary/filmic canon. Every character everywhere is an asshole.
Like having suitable role models doesn't preclude you from being a good piece of work but if it is mandated from the beginning to have role models just because that is just arbitrarily limiting your medium (Lol, postmodernism). The response should be "This character doesn't work in this gme@ not "This character is a bad role model and thus is a bad character".

The wonder of a market economy is that people can produce anything they want and consumers will only consume what they like, thereby driving what is produced via their purchases.

If parents would pay attention to what their kids were playing and buy games with better role models, the market would eventually shift further and further toward that end of the spectrum.

What, you think the market is saturated with space marines with all the emotion of a rock and built the size of a comfortable house because they're decent or even likable people? Fuck no! They're boring as hell, probably boring to write, and aren't exactly going to win you any awards or advance your writing career. They rule the market because every zit-faced teenaged male looks at that and how they're marketed as being so cool and thinks that's what a "real man" is the same way girls are flooded with skeletal models and think they're ugly and fat. By slowly including characters with more depth than a teaspoon and able to express real emotions without coming off as a pansy like they always seem to when the writers decide they need someone to kill off, more human characters will eventually be rewarded when people realize they don't want to bash their faces in with a sledgehammer every time they open their mouths. The writers will be able to (or will have to learn how to, depending on how pessimistic you are) exercise MORE freedom in how they write their cast, making for a much more interesting experience with every consecutive release. Maybe the hero is a hard-drinking deadbeat dad with an attack dog, but at least he's more interesting than a character you could replace with a fridge with a gun turret strapped to the top and no one would notice.

It's like Duke Nukem in a way. The character was created to boldfacedly parody the machismo stereotypes that ruled the market at the time, but did well enough at it that everyone pretty well missed the point and took it seriously to the point where over a decade later, the climate is totally appropriate for him to come around and do it again. Only instead of trying to undermine via parody again, someone might try to undermine via making a male character who caters to teen power fantasies while not actually being such a 'roid-raging dick.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Well yeah that was my point. If you're making your character based on what the marketing dept tells you be that space marine or a powerful female role model your artisitic credentials are in doubt.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

Well yeah that was my point. If you're making your character based on what the marketing dept tells you be that space marine or a powerful female role model your artisitic credentials are in doubt.

Well, my point was less that that would be the end result and more that that's probably what's already happening. If the market moves to a state of variety, the marketing department will have less say in how you write your cast because they'll either a) not know if it's going to sell or not because it hasn't been done quite that way yet, or b) it won't matter, because they know there's probably a market for it regardless.

[Archbio]

SMB,

Your facial credentials are in doubt.

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

That's ok, my response is just going to be Hitler gifs which are much easier to find.

Godwin's gif.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Originally Posted by Archbio

SMB,

Your facial credentials are in doubt.

How so?