A Snakewall on Feelings and Values and Friendship that you probably shouldn't read

[rpgdemon]

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Welp.
If last night was an academic dissertation, my supposedly "clever" attempt to compare old friends to the cast of Persona 4 would have gotten a failing grade, I see.

See, in my defense, I've never played any of the Persona games.

[Solid Snake]

You've just stumbled upon the definition of a Snakepost up there, RPG.

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Professor Smarmiarty

It was just a really hairy dude.

I thought he was a pokemon.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I thought he was the drug induced delusion of Shaggys mind?

[Sithdarth]

If by very obviously you mean the contention of a few marginal researchers with dicey evidence and using the broadest definition of language possible then yes it is very obviously not true. You can even raise them as humans and they can't get past the most simplest of sentences- until they can recurse their way through Proust animals can't understand shit. Welcome to Chomskyville mofo, we play for keeps.

They don't think like me so they must not think at all! Great line of reasoning there. Though you don't generally respect the intelligence or the research of anyone that isn't you to begin with (or at least I've never seen it) so I'm not entirely sure why I'd thought for a second you'd appreciate the fact that other people are capable of valid scientific research you might not understand or agree with. But I'm not going to derail this anymore by having an argument about valid definitions of language.

And sorry about this Snake. I'd totally offer up some advice but I've had like 3 total friends in real life to begin with and my experience with school up until college is at best described as hell. At best I can totally assure you that depression can be beaten eventually. I actually had a very bad time of it around the middle of my 3rd year of undergrad. Took 3 semesters off, then came back added a second major and now I'm about halfway through graduate school and loving what I do. If at all possible try to look at the initial failure as a way to challenge yourself to do better next time. If at all possible attempt to use it as motivation instead of dwelling on it and letting it get you depressed.

[shiney]

Someone didn't get it or didn't read the thread...

[Sithdarth]

Snake is feeling depressed about failing the bar and doesn't like the new direction the Persona series of video games is taking and is kinda torn up about it because those games helped him through his first big failure. He also used it as an allegory to him distancing self from actual people he knows due to disagreements of ideology.

But in general it is safe to assume I don't get something. In this case it's probably something to do with how I shouldn't be so serious and I wish I could do that but I really am not wired that way. I can kind of pull it off sometimes but in general it's not a thing that I can do.

[Bobbey]

Most of the advice I would've given you has already been said by RPG on the first page of this thread (very well said, may I add). I just want to insist on the community part, in other words, the community here at NPF. Now, I don't come here as often as I would like, but I know that this here forum has a bunch of fantastic guys and gals who are always ready to give good advice and support (in their own original and elegant ways) and I know that if I had anything boggling my mind I could always come here and tell my story (maybe not a Snakewall however, my English skills are definitely not as advanced as most people here to write something as elaborate and poetic).

Also, I find that in life we tend to go through ''phases'' of friends, or friendships. In 4 years you've had enough time to change and develop new ideologies, which differ from your 8 friends nowadays. I've had the same thing happen to me lately, where my old music school friends and I barely talk anymore since we're on opposite sides of the music spectrum in a way. Thing is, you'll find new friends eventually. As long as you're in situations where you meet many different people, like school for example, you'll always meet new people and new friendships will form. It's a shame about your old friends, really, but hey, if you need to talk about it, you've always got your friends here.

By the by, my msn account ceased to work months ago and I cannot get it back for some reason, so the only way to contact me is through facebook if you need to talk. I'll occasionally visit the chat here too.

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by Sithdarth

Snake is feeling depressed about failing the bar and doesn't like the new direction the Persona series of video games is taking and is kinda torn up about it because those games helped him through his first big failure. He also used it as an allegory to him distancing self from actual people he knows due to disagreements of ideology.

+1,000,000 points

Actually, beyond the Persona comparison stuff, I'd love to hear someone like Kim's or Poch's advice for the appropriate progressive approach to handling conservative friends in a way that does not degrade my values but that also does not leave me a lonely, bitter, angry, cynical shell of a human being.

[Kim]

Just get better friends, dogg.