Mafia: Basic

[The Wandering God]

Originally Posted by Mesden

TWG, you call me arrogant. I've done nothing but see arrogance in you since your townieness was revealed.

All I've done is state what I believe here and you've done nothing but irritate and insult me. You're being an ass and that's the gist of it. I can't take your attitude towards me one more moment.

I'm quitting. I am the vigilante, mind you, and I was to hit CmP or Twid tonight, whichever wasn't lynched. My other belief is that Thundergod Cid is a mafiate.

You doubted my judgement when it was the same as yours and have done nothing short of upset me in a game. I was in it to have fun and you've stripped away my last chance at this.

Goodbye Mafia.

First off if you actually bother to not just run off after that dramatic post, could you point out some examples of my "arrogance"?

Done nothing but irritate and insult? Bull. First, I questioned you. Then I was convinced of your innocence. Then you were revealed as a townie. Then I said I'd FOLLOW YOUR LEAD. I actually didn't even interact with you until this game day.

I resent you calling me an ass. Especially when it seems like you were GOING TO DO EXACTLY LIKE I SUGGESTED. Or is that what got you upset? That I said it, and later on, you didn't want it attributed to me? All the glory for Mesden because she was the vig who rescued the town?

I doubted your judgment? I don't see how, WHEN WE WERE THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING about what course of action to take.

And don't put the blame on me for you quitting. Noone made you quit.

And I'm >< this close to quitting myself, as the game has been a wash from the beginning.

The Wandering God

[Mesden]

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God

First off if you actually bother to not just run off after that dramatic post, could you point out some examples of my "arrogance"?

Done nothing but irritate and insult? Bull. First, I questioned you. Then I was convinced of your innocence. Then you were revealed as a townie. Then I said I'd FOLLOW YOUR LEAD. I actually didn't even interact with you until this game day.

I resent you calling me an ass. Especially when it seems like you were GOING TO DO EXACTLY LIKE I SUGGESTED. Or is that what got you upset? That I said it, and later on, you didn't want it attributed to me? All the glory for Mesden because she was the vig who rescued the town?

I doubted your judgment? I don't see how, WHEN WE WERE THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING about what course of action to take.

And don't put the blame on me for you quitting. Noone made you quit.

And I'm >< this close to quitting myself, as the game has been a wash from the beginning.

The Wandering God

Insults to me: Hypocrite. Untrustworthy Judgement. Arrogant. (Sadly, as our judgement is the same for CmP and Twid, you're Judgement must be unstrustworthy too.)

As far as done nothing but insult and berate. I'd guess I should've said done nothing lately.

You said you'd follow my lead. Fine. But I didn't do what you suggested. I do what I suggested. I was the first person to suspect CmP. And though I do give you credit for pointing Twid out, I still had my own reasons to kill him.

I'm calling you an ass because you're berating me. It's a game. You don't play only to win, but to have fun. You ripped the fun away from my last game.

I don't care about glory. That didn't even matter. I wasn't going to be the vig that rescued the town. I was going to be the vig who killed who she thought was scummy.

You doubted my judgement when you said what you did about the Vig's judgement. Twas an accident, I said. and you kept saying how they couldn't be trusted on their own.

And I do blame you for my quitting. You, yes you, have taken the fun away from this game and upset me. So, had it not been for you, I would still be playing. Don't pull that flawwed logic. You didn't FORCE me too. But you're the reason. Stop trying to refurse the fact.

Then quit. If you're not having fun, quit. It's what I did and it'd be my fault if you did, since I'm the reason you aren't having fun. But now I'm gone. So you don't need to worry about it.

Edit: Sorry, missed one part, slightly on purpose. If you want examples, I'll let everyone in the thread state them, as you want their opinions too.

[Krylo]

You kids can't even play your little games unsupervised anymore? Do I have to take the board away?

Don't make me go back and make my own judgements over who started what and what's going on. I'm seeing a lot of 'stepping over the line' on both sides, and I'm going to let it slide for now.

However, if problems like this continue I'll flip a coin to decide between stopping mafia for awhile or banning the people involved.

Drop it all right now.

Go play the game, if you're still in it, and let Mesden alone. If you want to quit, then quit and don't bother responding. Bad blood breeds bad blood, and we have enough of this here already.

[The Wandering God]

Originally Posted by Mesden

Insults to me: Hypocrite. Untrustworthy Judgement. Arrogant. (Sadly, as our judgement is the same for CmP and Twid, you're Judgement must be unstrustworthy too.)

And what about the insults to me? Hmmm? Arrogant, ass, and stupid. And where's the explanation for calling me arrogant?

As far as done nothing but insult and berate. I'd guess I should've said done nothing lately.

Except I didn't know that you were the vig. How was I to know?

You said you'd follow my lead. Fine. But I didn't do what you suggested. I do what I suggested. I was the first person to suspect CmP. And though I do give you credit for pointing Twid out, I still had my own reasons to kill him.

When didn't you do what I suggested? What are you referring to? Why is this about who suspected who first? And then you say it's not about glory.

I'm calling you an ass because you're berating me. It's a game. You don't play only to win, but to have fun. You ripped the fun away from my last game.

Well it's kind of hard to have fun when I try my damndest to make you see what I'm trying to say and all you say is, "I'm not going to listen to anyone else but me." Yeah, real mature. Of course I'm not going to just let you stand there and ignore me. I'm going to try and make you see my side of things.

And, again, for the umpteenth time, I. Can't. Control. Your. Emotions. How much fun you are having is not my responsibility.

I don't care about glory. That didn't even matter. I wasn't going to be the vig that rescued the town. I was going to be the vig who killed who she thought was scummy.

Yet you keep making points about how you thought CmP was guilty first. And yes, you were going to be the one who killed people YOU thought were scummy. Great way you started off too. Why don't you apologzie to B_real?

Of course, since you were going to kill off either of them, and since I said that's what the vig should do, you couldn't claim that later without it being questioned.

You doubted my judgement when you said what you did about the Vig's judgement. Twas an accident, I said. and you kept saying how they couldn't be trusted on their own.

First off, I didn't know you were the Vig. And I think I was within reason for suspecting that, since you, ya know, killed a townie. That little thing you just can't stand to hear? And no, I don't think a vig can be trusted until they prove themselves. If you had hit CmP or Twiddy, then I would have retracted those statements. But as soon as things got tough, you quit.

And I do blame you for my quitting. You, yes you, have taken the fun away from this game and upset me. So, had it not been for you, I would still be playing. Don't pull that flawwed logic. You didn't FORCE me too. But you're the reason. Stop trying to refurse the fact.

Nooooo, I didn't make you quit. Stop saying I did. Stop saying I control your emotions. I may be the reason, but don't treat it like fact either. Just because you say something, doesn't make it true. And if I am the reason, that still doesn't excuse you skipping out on everyone else. You know, the responsiblity to complete the game for other people.

Then quit. If you're not having fun, quit. It's what I did and it'd be my fault if you did, since I'm the reason you aren't having fun. But now I'm gone. So you don't need to worry about it.

I won't quit, because if I did, then the game might fall apart. That is, if it doesn't happen because you quit.

But those would be reasons. You can't control how I feel. If I quit, it will be because I want to. It's called responsibility.

The Wandering God

[CallmePrismatic]

krylo, or whatever other mods happen to be reading, I pray to god TWG made that post before you made yours and you don't take it as going against your better wishes, and subsequently unleashing the coin toss. This is the first Mafia game with such a...fued, and I'd ask you look at the other threads for how these things usually work, i.e. funner and with more game-ness. I'd feel partly responsible if people got banned because of playing a game I brought in.

That said I'm quitting. I was mafia. Congrats to all who suspected me. I thought about going through but this was a game plagued by townie drop outs from the beginning and just feels like a cheap mafia win.

It was a joke though. With every fiber of my being as a person not playing anymore, it was a joke.

[Krylo]

THIS game is over, and TWG is getting a temp ban.

I saw that right away and waited a few minutes, even went to see if he was out of the thread and doing other things.

He had his chance to notice and decide to delete that, incase he did make it before me.

AND, even if he hadn't seen it, it should have been obvious that this was going way way way too far now. There's no excuse for continuing like that regardless.

FURTHER, at the first SIGN of another feud anything like this, everyone involved is banned from playing Mafia altogether.

If that gets to be too much work (like I find someone playing Mafia who is banned from it once or it starts happening more often), Mafia gets closed down.

That is unless another mod decides to take a stricter line.

Seriously, this kind of thing is just irritating.