Mafia: NPF edition

[Sithdarth]

Um, alright. But I'm not trusting the lynch of you just yet... Aside, what about Sith? He was quite loud and has quieted down lately.

Believe it or not its July 4th weekend, or there abouts, and my parents have this crazy notion of a party, which generally means I have to run around doing all the yard clean up. Plus I'm running two DnD RPs one with Rhiya in it and man is she demanding. Other than that there hasn't been much left unsaid lately.

I am however, quite disappointed be the reluctance to lynch B_real. Christ people Mesden already told us 3 townies are worth one mafiate and I doubt he could kill 3 much less more than that. Of course that's assuming he's not just blowing smoke. Get some balls people, and in that vein.

Vote: B_real for the sole reason he's trying to scare everyone into not doing it. Hell he could have some secret roll that protects him from the vig for all we know. We shouldn't give him a pass because he's threating us with something that may or may not be there. Something that probably can't actually tip the balance of the game. Also, I'm really watching Neyo for saying it and Mesden for not seeing the idiocy of it.

[P-Sleazy]

heh, Just trying to get the most bang for my buck

[MasterOfMagic]

Originally Posted by SithDarth

Vote: B_real for the sole reason he's trying to scare everyone into not doing it. Hell he could have some secret roll that protects him from the vig for all we know. We shouldn't give him a pass because he's threating us with something that may or may not be there. Something that probably can't actually tip the balance of the game.

I'm completely with Sithdarth on this one. B_Real may be bluffing. And even if he's not, do you really think the GO would put in a mass kill mafiatte? It just screams unbalanced, unless we've got something extremely good on our side too.

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Originally Posted by Mesden

So now I'm being killed because I'm playing like myself. At that, I'll probably leave this game.

That right there makes me want to get rid of you. Now, if we vote you off, you quit, and we have to have that on our shoulders. Because there's no possible way that we could ever honestly think of you as suspicous. I mean, come on! That's just not even possible. It just has to be because you're such a big threat from the other games. Uh-hunh.

For the record: I consider you to be the exact same threat as anyone with a bit of experience.

And then you throw this out there:

Don't let this be a pity party and affect what you do, players (Mainly PO).

Ah hahaha. Yeah. "Just completely forget that thing about me quitting if I die. Go ahead and vote for me, making me leave this game forever. No biggie. :DD?"

Right. If you didn't want it to be considered, then don't say it. I really don't like this kinda defense tactic, and I'm really hoping (and believe) that you literally just had to get that off your chest. Because if not, that's just low.

**** And its not like anyone can actually argue or say anything agianst it either! I'm feeling like an ass just writing this post, and its not even all that offensive or anything! *****
(at least, by my reading. If it really is offensive or flamish or anything like that, I sincerely apologize. That's not what was intended at all. I just really don't like this sorta thing effecting a game. It reeks of drama. And I hate drama. So I had to say something.)

It's just something I've been meaning to say since I said I was quitting and it seems my premonition is coming true.

How? Because Ecurt, one person, is trying to tell the PO what to do? You've defended the idea well, that the PO shouldn't come out and say what you are, because then your a dead person no matter what. No one else that I've seen has really voiced their opinion on it. So, here I go:

To the PO: please don't reveal yourself. There really isn't any point at this stage in the game, because we've still got a whole lot more people than the mafia at this point. Finding out the allegiance of just one person just isn't important enough. Saving that ace in the hole for later is much better, in my opinion.

Back to Mesden: Just because your this big influential person who never lives through a game, doesn't mean you should just quit. That would just make it more fun, from my point of view. Try and live as long as I could a few games, completely fuck up a few of the others as much as I can, that sorta thing. Assuming you're really as influential as you say you are (to be honest, I haven't paid enough attention to the other games to know if its the truth or not), then you can actually sway how the game plays out! You can mess with people's minds! You've got a huge sweeping effect, even if for only a few days. In what way is this bad?

I'm gonna go hug my little lion now. He'll make me feel pure agian.

[Mesden]

Originally Posted by MasterOfMagic

I'm completely with Sithdarth on this one. B_Real may be bluffing. And even if he's not, do you really think the GO would put in a mass kill mafiatte? It just screams unbalanced, unless we've got something extremely good on our side too.

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That right there makes me want to get rid of you. Now, if we vote you off, you quit, and we have to have that on our shoulders. Because there's no possible way that we could ever honestly think of you as suspicous. I mean, come on! That's just not even possible. It just has to be because you're such a big threat from the other games. Uh-hunh.

For the record: I consider you to be the exact same threat as anyone with a bit of experience.

And then you throw this out there:

Ah hahaha. Yeah. "Just completely forget that thing about me quitting if I die. Go ahead and vote for me, making me leave this game forever. No biggie. D?"

Right. If you didn't want it to be considered, then don't say it. I really don't like this kinda defense tactic, and I'm really hoping (and believe) that you literally just had to get that off your chest. Because if not, that's just low.

**** And its not like anyone can actually argue or say anything agianst it either! I'm feeling like an ass just writing this post, and its not even all that offensive or anything! *****
(at least, by my reading. If it really is offensive or flamish or anything like that, I sincerely apologize. That's not what was intended at all. I just really don't like this sorta thing effecting a game. It reeks of drama. And I hate drama. So I had to say something.)

Really, I just wanted it off my chest. I didn't like Ecurt's idea and it WAS the reason I was quitting(The belief for his idea). I thought I'd atleast tell everyone why I'd just half give up the game (I promised some people I'd join, but I'd really just not try at that point) Me getting killed for Ecurt's reason.

What was it?

"There's nothing lost from investigating you, and if we don't as one of the most vocal players we as the town have no idea whether or not to trust what you have to say."

Because I talk a lot. Yeaaaah...This thing has been a bit blown out of proportion the past month and I think it should be toned down a bit, but it sets a bad precedent for me.

How? Because Ecurt, one person, is trying to tell the PO what to do? You've defended the idea well, that the PO shouldn't come out and say what you are, because then your a dead person no matter what. No one else that I've seen has really voiced their opinion on it. So, here I go:

Don't EVER underestimate the influence one person has. I never will and you shouldn't.

To the PO: please don't reveal yourself. There really isn't any point at this stage in the game, because we've still got a whole lot more people than the mafia at this point. Finding out the allegiance of just one person just isn't important enough.

That's how I feel.

Saving that ace in the hole for later is much better, in my opinion.

Says the former PO who waited until he died, even though he had just pegged the last mafiate.

Back to Mesden:

Hooray!

Just because your this big influential person who never lives through a game, doesn't mean you should just quit.

The problem isn't the past, it's the now that's been built up. When someone's telling me t be revealed by the PO JUST because I'm me, it's gotten so far that me playing would just be auto role target.

That would just make it more fun, from my point of view.

Not when you're crucified before you can do anything.

Try and live as long as I could a few games,

I do, it just hardly works.

completely fuck up a few of the others as much as I can, that sorta thing.

I'm not the "Fuck up" kind of person.

Assuming you're really as influential as you say you are (to be honest, I haven't paid enough attention to the other games to know if its the truth or not), then you can actually sway how the game plays out! You can mess with people's minds! You've got a huge sweeping effect, even if for only a few days. In what way is this bad?

It's bad when I'm gone before I can do anything. Targetted because I'm me.

I'm gonna go hug my little lion now. He'll make me feel pure agian.

Have fun!

[Ogianres]

VOTE: B_Real

The idea of him bluffing sounds very plausible to me. And besides, if I die it won't be much of a loss since I don't have a very important role.

[MasterOfMagic]

Originally Posted by Mesden

Me getting killed for Ecurt's reason.

Hey, as long as that's all that your saying, and you don't quit if we really decide that you're mafiatte and lynch you, fine. I don't really like Ecurt's reasoning either.

Don't EVER underestimate the influence one person has. I never will and you shouldn't.

Well, assuming everyone playing is thinking about what people say, and not just going along with it, it shouldn't be a problem. That said, yeah, you're right. My bad.

Says the former PO who waited until he died, even though he had just pegged the last mafiate.

Bah, I shouldn't have put myself out in the open like that. If I had stayed back like before, I could've come out with my list, and we'd be home free.

The problem isn't the past, it's the now that's been built up. When someone's telling me t be revealed by the PO JUST because I'm me, it's gotten so far that me playing would just be auto role target.

Well, I'd say the PO has good reason to investigate you -- not reveal themselves though -- just because your one of the more talkative ones in the game, yess. Is that you being targeted just because of who you are? No. How you play? Yess. But you chose to play that way, so you should accept the downsides of it.

Maybe they do just go after you because you're Mesden. I don't know. But you have to see that your not really discouraging it :P

Not when you're crucified before you can do anything.

Seems like you've gotten to do quite a bit so far :P

I do, it just hardly works.

You're not dead yet, silly.

I'm not the "Fuck up" kind of person.

Awww, you should try it sometime.

Have fun!

Oh, but I did. Blew some bubbles too, just for the hell of it.

[Mesden]

Originally Posted by MoM

STUFF ABOUT MESDEN NOT BEING DEAD YET!

I was talking about the future, silly. If Ecurt's sets that precedent about me needing to be targetted for how I play (Basically for being me) then it becomes all of that Junk.

*Grumble* I want some bubbles *Grumble.*

[P-Sleazy]

Originally Posted by Mesden

People consider me dangerous. No matter what side I'm on, I'm always a threat. I thought that I'd be bait for every role on night one at this point and I'm suprised I wasn't.

Now you're telling the PO to investigate me. Why? Because I'm vocal and influential. If I'm ANYTHING, I die. I'd be a known townie and the mafia will kill me. I'd be mafia and the town will kill me. Why? Because I state my thoughts a lot and I'm good at it.

So now I'm being killed because I'm playing like myself. At that, I'll probably leave this game.

Don't let this be a pity party and affect what you do, players (Mainly PO). It's just something I've been meaning to say since I said I was quitting and it seems my premonition is coming true.

In reference to the bold of post

But you already have turned it into a pity party.

Originally Posted by Mesden

I've decided to play this game. This is more a test than it is me WANTING to play, also, GARUD seems stressed for members, almost making that 25 mark.

Should my predictions on what is to happen come true, I'll keep through with my announcement about leaving mafia. If not, then you may see me around more often.

We didn't hit you night one because we felt that it'd be fun to have you around in other mafia games as well and not let this be your last. But if someone feels you're too dangerous to have in the beginning of the game, eventually your influence will fade in games, they will find new targets who are more influential and you will live again. See it more as a way to level the playing field.

IN Reference to the italicized part of quote

heh, so why so uppity about the PO investigating you? you don't have something to hide do you? SK maybe? if your allegience is of no threat to the town, then why would you be afraid of the PO investigate you?

In reference to the underlined portion of the post

heh. I find games more fun if I try something new every now and then. You should try it. Don't get all stressed out over a game. I enjoyed the game alot more when I made short posts this time around than the long arguementive posts. Those were frustrating. Like you said last time, the game should be fun.



What? I'm still alive. I can make arguementive posts to help the town:p

EDIT: And for the record Ogian. I'm getting the votes still arent I?

[MasterOfMagic]

Originally Posted by B_real_shadows to Mesden

heh, so why so uppity about the PO investigating you? you don't have something to hide do you? SK maybe? if your allegience is of no threat to the town, then why would you be afraid of the PO investigate you?

Originally Posted by Mesden, earlier

It's a waste to ME because I know my allignment. Anyhow, whatever floats your boat.

It's a waste because I'll be a known townie, but the BG HAS to protect the PO and not me, wasting my life. It's like condemning me to death all because you aren't sure. That's why I'm fighting it, because I'll die. I've never lived through a mafia game and I've been playing so well in this one. I've REALLY been thinking I'd make it to the end for my first time, one of the few things I haven't pulled off, but you're taking it away from me.

She doesn't seem to mind if she gets investigated to me, just doesn't want to die no matter what.

And, ya know, if you turn out to not be in the mafia, I'd love you forever B_Real.

[P-Sleazy]

Oh then you should get ready to do some lovin MoM. You're gonna enjoy this.