Doctor Who, season Ten. [AMERICAN]

[dposse]

Well, the tenth doctor often becomes rude without meaning to, as we saw in Tooth and Claw. It's different from 9, who meant being rude whenever he was.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

You know, I never actually "got" the Bad wolf references the first time around. They were a bit too vague to be noticable really. The Torchwood references on the otherhand on just blindingly obvious, but it's not as if they get in the way of anything really, or even really that important.

And Torchwood starts soon over here (just saw the first advert for it today), but the damned BBC is only putting it on BBC3, which is a pain in the arse because I can only get that channel on one TV, the one TV which I never get to watch because someone else is always hogging it!!

And FYI, Tooth and claw did explain everything about how the Lycan cells worked and how it came to earth. It even gave a plausible explaination for how the creature could morph with the on-set of the full moon and how there was a weapon to stop it. For clarification purposes though:

SPOILERS:
The Lycan crashed to earth hundreds of years earlier, but only a few cells survived so it needed time to regenerate (it's a Lycan, that's what they do). It took control of a human host for it's survival and a holy sect began worshiping it. The power went to it's head and it came up with the notion of world domination. Queen Victoria's husband, (sorry I'm no good on names of the royal family) and the guy who owned Torchwood estate (can't remember his name), discovered this and planned against it, just in case their worst fears became reality. They built the lazer to channel the moonlight, knowing that if the Lycan ever tried to attack the Queen it would have to be done during a full moon. The full moon (as the source of it's power), would therefore be the best thing around to kill it, by simply over-loading whatever energy it used. Now, the only reason why Queen Victoria would ever come here would be to get the diamond re-cut. This would of course mean that the diamond would be with here when/if the Lycan attacked. And what better item to use to refract moonlight for use as a weapon, but the most perfect diamond in the world?!

As for how the creature actually used moonlight for it's transformation, it was simply down to the unique light frequencies given off only by the full moon.

Simple really.

[Sky Warrior Bob]

I don't mind the new Doctor. I do however hate the scramble-thinking visual effect that they've done with him. I thought it was just an after effect of the excess Tardis energy in his system, however the library scene suggests this might something that re-occurs, and frankly I don't like it.

As for this episode, I liked it right up to the end. That's where it fell apart for me. I mean, I get the fact that this must be a set-up with a future werewolf episode, but honestly did Rose & the Doctor have to be so damn chipper about it. They could have easily changed the scenario so, right after the Queen got nicked, some of guards (they were drugged, right?) come up to prevent the Doctor from examining her, let alone question her.

Afterwards, Rose & the Doctor could second guess each other & have a was she bitten or not conversation. Making it clear they're at least a bit unsure. I mean otherwise, why wouldn't the Doctor immediatly follow-up & try to eliminate the wolf DNA before it got to be a problem several generations down the line.

Or does he do that? Admittedly, I'm only guessing about the future, having not seen or read anything about future episodes.

SWB

[DavidG]

Originally Posted by Sky Warrior Bob

I don't mind the new Doctor. I do however hate the scramble-thinking visual effect that they've done with him.

"Scramble-thinking visual effect"? Doesn't ring a bell.

[dposse]

Originally Posted by Hawk of Battle

You know, I never actually "got" the Bad wolf references the first time around. They were a bit too vague to be noticable really. The Torchwood references on the otherhand on just blindingly obvious, but it's not as if they get in the way of anything really, or even really that important.

And Torchwood starts soon over here (just saw the first advert for it today), but the damned BBC is only putting it on BBC3, which is a pain in the arse because I can only get that channel on one TV, the one TV which I never get to watch because someone else is always hogging it!!

And FYI, Tooth and claw did explain everything about how the Lycan cells worked and how it came to earth. It even gave a plausible explaination for how the creature could morph with the on-set of the full moon and how there was a weapon to stop it. For clarification purposes though:

SPOILERS:
The Lycan crashed to earth hundreds of years earlier, but only a few cells survived so it needed time to regenerate (it's a Lycan, that's what they do). It took control of a human host for it's survival and a holy sect began worshiping it. The power went to it's head and it came up with the notion of world domination. Queen Victoria's husband, (sorry I'm no good on names of the royal family) and the guy who owned Torchwood estate (can't remember his name), discovered this and planned against it, just in case their worst fears became reality. They built the lazer to channel the moonlight, knowing that if the Lycan ever tried to attack the Queen it would have to be done during a full moon. The full moon (as the source of it's power), would therefore be the best thing around to kill it, by simply over-loading whatever energy it used. Now, the only reason why Queen Victoria would ever come here would be to get the diamond re-cut. This would of course mean that the diamond would be with here when/if the Lycan attacked. And what better item to use to refract moonlight for use as a weapon, but the most perfect diamond in the world?!

As for how the creature actually used moonlight for it's transformation, it was simply down to the unique light frequencies given off only by the full moon.

Simple really.

Yeah, but i didn't find it as clear as just about everything in the 9th season. The 9th doctor explained everything in a very clear scifi manner, like SG1 does.

[Sky Warrior Bob]

Originally Posted by DavidG

"Scramble-thinking visual effect"? Doesn't ring a bell.

Lots of in & out zoom on the Doctor, just after he tosses the dimond back to the queen. 'My head, oh my head' While he's working out the plan of Torchwood Sr & the former King.

And I recall a similar scene in the Christmas Invasion where the Doctor went mental.

That's what I don't like. And two times suggests it might not be the last time this happens.

Originally Posted by dposse

Yeah, but i didn't find it as clear as just about everything in the 9th season. The 9th doctor explained everything in a very clear scifi manner, like SG1 does.

First of all, while the 9th Doctor did do a better job of explaining things without going all mental, its very rude to compare his style to SG1. Both Doctors leave just enough unexplained so you've got to work it out for yourself. The 9th however had a bit better presentation. This current Doctor tends to get very hyper when he's trying to explain something, and thus making you want to tune him out. However, the full explaination is there.

SWB

[Genesis Epyon]

Originally Posted by Mashirosen

For me it was when the laird of the manor or whatever he was decided to sacrifice himself to buy the others some time, and Ten's just like "Whew! Thanks for taking one for the team, buddy, I owe you a Coke!" and hardly gives it a second thought after that. Nine would've let him do it too, but probably not without an argument, and definitely not without feeling the loss deeply. Ten certainly likes to talk about how much he just loves hyuumons-ah!!, but ultimately he's never really that broken up about it when they suffer or die -- when anyone suffers or dies, really, unless he perceives the persons or phenomena inflicting it as a challenge to his authority. Whereas Nine, for all the "styuupid apes" namecalling and the jerkery of which he was more than capable, really did care deeply for humans and most other non-Dalek beings -- remember how grieved he was even for the poor Slitheen-abused pig in Aliens of London, and how he tried to comfort it as it died? That's the difference between Ten and Nine that I don't like, and it's got nothing to do with one being lighter than the other. I said before that Nine was a good person but not a nice one -- Ten is a "nice" person but not really much of a good one.

And you're welcome, Mauve, just doing my part. ;D I'm with you on probably picking the Fourth Doctor as the one I'd most like to run around time and space with.

You raise an excellent point about the difference between the 9th and 10th Doctor incarnations, a very excellent point. The 9th Doctor was mean and rude, but didnt lack compassion. Except when it came towards the Daleks, his peoples most bitter enemy. But even then he showed compassion towards that Dalek who had mutated because of Rose's DNA. And the 10th, he's very cold. Dark even. Darker then the 9th Doctor ever was. I dont think the 9th Doctor would have killed the Alien Leader during the Christmas invasion even if he had broken his word and attacked him, unlike the 10th Doctor.

This brings to mind an earlier Doctor incarnation whome met his "supposed" evil 12th or 13th incarnation. Considering how his character is getting less good on the inside, seemingly, anyway, perhaps that possibilty can happen.

And personally, I'd rather travel with the 9th Doctor. His character carries a mad scientist quality that I like and share, and maybe he can answer the disturbing questions that come to my mind.

[Heliomance]

I really like Tennant as the 10th doctor. Unfortunately, I managed to miss the entire 9th doctor, so I can't comment on how good Eccelstone was, but I did feel that Tennant had a good character for the doctor.
[prepares to be flamed]

[Mike McC]

Originally Posted by Genesis Epyon

And the 10th, he's very cold. Dark even. Darker then the 9th Doctor ever was. I dont think the 9th Doctor would have killed the Alien Leader during the Christmas invasion even if he had broken his word and attacked him, unlike the 10th Doctor.

No, I think Ninth Doctor would have done it. Ninth Doctor showed he was capable of killing people that harmed/killed others for thier own designs. Remember how he took care of the living plastic, Cassandra, the gas creatures, the Slitheen, and the alien at the end of The Long Game. Like Mashirosen said, Ninth Doctor was a good person, but not a nice one.

But it seems the Tenth Doctor would do it while smiling, and that's just not right.

[dposse]

The 10th Doctor shares something with the 9th doctors personality, in that he doesn't give second chances. For example, when that guy got a chip planted in his head and the 9th doctor just left it in his head as a punishment, and the 10th doctor after his little Highlander fight with the alien.

SWB: Sorry, i forgot that i was dealing with Doctor Who fanatics....