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Unread 01-19-2007, 02:08 AM   #41
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Am I hearing this? Am I really hearing someone say that some '70s van mural refugee is going to lay so much as one white mage-diddling finger on my boy? Bao-Dur would have a smart bomb targeted for every Raistlinoid particle in up to eight dimensions conceptualized, prototyped, field-tested and fully operational before that Nightwish-listening cakesniffer could yank his brother's +1 Pork Sword out of his mouth. Oh no she di-in't.
Pssht, and look at you talking up fuckin' Vin Diesel, who got lost on the way to Chronicles of Another Shitty Vin Diesel movie and ended up in extended universe Star Wars, where they loved him so much they put him into an awesome videogame's shitty sequel. Where he was super tough at killing Jedi who were on his own side! Yeah that's real impressive sciencin' ability, the ability to scientifically blow up your own army. You know, impressive for people who like losers.
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Unread 01-19-2007, 03:07 AM   #42
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Can't monks and rogues deflect/reflect magic missiles? I remember reading about that in the epic book maybe.

Raistlin beats all challengers, he defeated his own friggin' deity for crying out loud. Bao-Dur is just not on the same scale, sure he took out a planet, Raistlin destroyed the universe, and all dieties in it (in the alternate timeline that Caramon and the kender whose name I can't remember averted).
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Unread 01-19-2007, 05:01 AM   #43
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Can't monks and rogues deflect/reflect magic missiles? I remember reading about that in the epic book maybe.

Raistlin beats all challengers, he defeated his own friggin' deity for crying out loud. Bao-Dur is just not on the same scale, sure he took out a planet, Raistlin destroyed the universe, and all dieties in it (in the alternate timeline that Caramon and the kender whose name I can't remember averted).
Kender name = Tasselhoff Burrfoot.

On the magic missile/lightsaber issue, why bother blocking it? Just take the pittance of damage (if you're a Jedi, you probably are of decently high level anyway), cut the uppity wizard in half, then use Force Healing. Problem solved.

However, I'd say that if a monk can eventually take a feat that allows them to deflect magic missiles, I'd say a Jedi could do the same.
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Unread 01-19-2007, 07:57 AM   #44
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That's Deflect Anything, and it's only Ray attacks. Magic Missile is an unerring Force attack.

Damn I'm a geek. I know that by heart.
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Unread 01-19-2007, 11:01 AM   #45
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Where he was super tough at killing Jedi who were on his own side! Yeah that's real impressive sciencin' ability, the ability to scientifically blow up your own army.
Dude, this is science, not some mall Wiccan slumber party! When Bao-Dur has to drop the megaton hammer, you can get your space hippie ass out of its way or become an acceptable casualty. Science is a cold and rational titan, not some floppy-titted mommy goddess who gets sniffly over PetSmart Christmas commercials. Not to mention the fact that it wouldn't even have been necessary if the Jedi were actually good for much besides wearing shit-colored bathrobes and having more petty slapfights disguised as policy meetings than a small town PTA.
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Unread 01-19-2007, 12:26 PM   #46
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When Bao-Dur has to drop the megaton hammer, you can get your space hippie ass out of its way or become an acceptable casualty.
Wait, Bao-Dur has the Megaton Hammer?! Does that mean he's the guy who originally sealed away Volvagia?! That would mean Link is superior to him, since Link KILLED Volvagia.

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On the magic missile/lightsaber issue, why bother blocking it? Just take the pittance of damage (if you're a Jedi, you probably are of decently high level anyway), cut the uppity wizard in half, then use Force Healing.
I would guess that they would prefer blocking it, because they are based off of the Shaolin Monks. What do I know about Shaolin? I know that they would never risk getting hit(on purpose, anyway), because they would routinely fight people who could destroy an entire stone wall with one punch. Assuming that they are as closely related to Shaolin as Lucas has said, they would never purposely take a hit, except in the case of the most mediocre of Jedi: Obi Wan. Everyone always says Obi Wan must have been strong to survive. WRONG! Obi Wan had only mastered the BASICS. He was incapably of using high-end force powers, because he wasn't strong enough. The real reason he survived is probably because he wasn't a real threat to the Empire. Yoda, on the other hand...
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Unread 01-19-2007, 12:32 PM   #47
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Wait, Bao-Dur has the Megaton Hammer?! Does that mean he's the guy who originally sealed away Volvagia?! That would mean Link is superior to him, since Link KILLED Volvagia.
Maybe Link's already dead. Maybe he killed Link and took his Megaton Hammer. You ever think of that... prick?
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Unread 01-19-2007, 12:43 PM   #48
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hey, here's a question, could the deathstar laser be deflected by a jedi with a lightsaber? i mean, all it really is is a big blaster bolt
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Unread 01-19-2007, 12:44 PM   #49
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Maybe Link's already dead. Maybe he killed Link and took his Megaton Hammer. You ever think of that... prick?
Impossible.
1. As soon as Link defeated Ganon, he went back in time, after rescattering his well earned items as he inexplicably does.
2. Link didn't die between OoT and MM, at which point he didn't have the Hammer (I assume he returned it to the Gorons), therefore, Bao-Dur couldn't have killed Link and stolen it during that period of time.
3. Bao-Dur creates all of his own weapons. If he has the Megaton Hammer, he's the one that made it.

If Link had been around with a Vibroblade or a Lightsaber at the time that the Emperor took over, the rebellion wouldn't have had time to form. He would have sealed the Emperor away for some reason using the MasterSaber after collecting a bunch of random items that will have no impact upon the boss fight. My reasoning? If Link > Bao-Dur, then Ganon > Emperor.
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Unread 01-19-2007, 12:46 PM   #50
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Well, since you can put three crystals into a lightsaber, with 1 of them having to be a colored one, and the other two changing the qualities of it, I would assume that you could somehow turn a chunk of Kryptonyte into one of the altering-type crystals. The real question is why would you want to? I mean, what are the chances that a Jedi and Superman are going to cross paths? And beyond that, why would a Jedi and Superman be fighting each other? Even if we're just talking about one of the other Kryptonians, who live close enough to Earth to send baby Supes over before he is even aged beyond infancy (assuming no stasis) and the others who escaped are capable of reaching Earth within Supes' lifetime(stasis wouldn't matter), they're probably soo far away from any Sith or Jedi that it becomes a moot point.

Unless...perhaps the Sith were the ones who destroyed Krypton! There's no telling how far their grasp is...
I Don't know the source of our statements on the lightsabers- The Varying sizes and aspects can allow for different numbers of Crystals to be placed within- The largest handle being 18 inches long. Each addition takes up 1 socket within, and an 18 inch handle holds 16 sockets- These can be used for Crystals as well as extra parts. Changing your saber to be Force-activated instead of touch-plate takes up 2 sockets but DAMN IT'S COOL, for instance- There are Crystals which will significantly up the focus of the blade, extend or shorten the length, etc. as quoted in the GURPS STAR WARS suppliment.

I'm only referencing GURPS becuase it's the only Sourcebook I have on hand, and it's fairly accurate with comments by Gene Rodenberry and George Lucas inside.

But Kryptonite, while not TECHNICALLY a Force-Crystal, can be used in a spare socket to enhance the photon blade with Kryponite Qualities, likely tinging it green too.
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