Pokemon Umbral Discussion 29: I Dare Nintendo To Make This a Game

[DanteFalcon]

Now I might be insane like this but couldn't I just use something like Aerial Ace to go over the wall of fire?

[Astral Harmony]

Sure, go fly your brains out.

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Dracorion

Remember how this relies entirely on Mollesk living long enough? Yeah, I thought so. Which becomes extremely unlikely if you can't wipe the oil off it this turn. So I very much doubt Mollesk will be able to stay alive for three turns straight.

Mollesk was able to survive 2 turns, one turn being the Pokegeddon full onslaught with the third turn being the buffing phase we got. If Recover is successful, then it'll definately live that long since AB said Ceru will not be focusing on doing oil again (which was the real reason for the plasma's obscene power) combined with the fact that it'll still have that maxed defense thing going.

Waiting 3 turns (2 turns after this one) is an option. The other one is sending Togekiss to use Follow Me on Mollesk during the turn it uses Power Trick (maybe next turn) and then Testament Drive the turn after.

Sorry I was away. I was at a performance show, hoping to see Lev doing his fire-sword-chuck thing. Too bad I didn't see him there tonight.

[Geminex]

Ok, ok. How about a deal, here? Since you all haven't decided on a course of action yet.

Mollesk gets to stay.
But
a) we don't waste a water move, a full restore, follow me, or any other kind of support on him
b) if he fails to untilise his technique, or it's far less effective than expected, you never insist on using the unlikable little bugger again.

And I just thought of something.
Hey, AB:
If we switch with an enforcer, we'll "recover from status effects on the first turn ".
Does that include oil?

[Menarker]

>_> The hell kind of deal is that? No to that. (And we DID decide on a course of action.)

He won't be able to do any of his techniques if he doesn't get a wash off. Follow Me is to speed things up if situation calls for it and I didn't request a Full Restore in the first place (Although it would help). You guys don't have to do anything, my character will try to take care of his pokemons (and I'll never consent to giving him up if things don't work out, so screw that. ^,^).

Besides, Surf would hit 3 targets. The wall of fire, Cerulean Wildfire, and Mollesk. It's not like I'm spending a technique specifically to only support him.

Anyhow, off to bed.

[DanteFalcon]

Ok. As soon as I get the oil washed off I'm ninja'ing over that wall via Aerial Ace. Presuming circumstances don't change drastically. Which is unlikely. But I can hope.

[Geminex]

Ok. As soon as I get the oil washed off I'm ninja'ing over that wall via Aerial Ace. Presuming circumstances don't change drastically. Which is unlikely. But I can hope.

Ok, but why? I was hoping you could do a porygonZ paradigm shift, and start dealing some good damage. Aerial ace really isn't that strong, is it? Particularly not with Venomoth's stats.

And regarding Menarker:
No, we didn't decide. You all suggested courses of action. I respectfully disagree.

And yes, to use his technique, he needs a wash off, that is my point. I REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH THE INVESTMENT. Because, see, you don't just need the water move. You'd need time. You'd need healing. You'd need protection (probably). And then you'd even need Rage.

That's a lot of resources. And we don't even have a guarantee that it'd work! I think that the time and resources spent on making sure that mollesk survives long enough would be better invested in actually helping the team. I know that we don't have to do anything oursevles. But we'd have to give up Renny for a few turns while he does everything he can to keep Mollesk alive and ready, instead of actually attacking our foes.

And you misunderstand me. I'm not saying that you have to give him up. I'm saying that Mollesk is really not an effective unit in a lot of situations, and I'd prefer it if you didn't insist on using it in such situations. I think this is a situation where he's not an effective unit; and I'm trying to prove this to you, by letting you use him, and later pointing out that he was ineffective.

That's the reason I made that offer. I'm willing for us to be less effective this battle, if, in return, we'll be more effective in coming battles (since you'll hopefully stop insisting on using Mollesk). That's the only good I see coming out of using Mollesk, hence the only condition under which I'd be willing to have him used.

[DanteFalcon]

Distraction. More than likely Cerulean will target on me. I paradigm then to survive while the rest of you fix the wall issue and do any remaining healing/buffing.

[Geminex]

Eeeeh...
I'm not sure that you're the one to buy us time.
Your attack might not distract it, it'd just be a comparatively low-power attack.
And even if you distract it enough for it to target you, I fear that you won't survive an attack if you're not paradigm shifted.
We have pokemon that're far more expendable.

And I just realized something else. Why the hell haven't we had Rachel go for her Magnezone technique? I mean, Wildfire is metal. As are the enemy weapons. SHE CAN DISABLE METAL THINGS. What the hell are we doing?

[Dracorion]

Oh come on. You really think AB's going to let us disable Wildfire like that?

At most, it'll do something like what happened with Lexhur and disable SOME of her attacks.

And besides, even if Magnet Crush works, we should save it for next turn which is when Wildfire's reinforcements show up.

Still, it may be worth it. It could disable her long range attacks, and then she'd only be left with melee, which she couldn't use because of her own wall o' fire. Of course, there is the possibility that she can just ignore her own trap, but I think it's worth a try anyway.

Originally Posted by Menarker

Mollesk was able to survive 2 turns, one turn being the Pokegeddon full onslaught with the third turn being the buffing phase we got. If Recover is successful, then it'll definately live that long since AB said Ceru will not be focusing on doing oil again (which was the real reason for the plasma's obscene power) combined with the fact that it'll still have that maxed defense thing going.

Mollesk had a Full Restore used on it during the buffing phase. So surviving was less of a testament to it's OMGHAX defence and more being at full health. Which means that anyone would've survived it.

Originally Posted by Menarker

>_> The hell kind of deal is that? No to that. (And we DID decide on a course of action.)

I suggested a course of action. Then you decided "NO FUCK YOU MOLLESK STAYS BITCH".