Urban Mafia

[Demetrius]

Gee whiz, one or more of the people in a mafia game that are pushing for a lynch are scum... Wow! I'd have never guessed that. Two mafia's vying for control with the town stuck in the middle and you're saying that Mafiates are voting to kill one another?

Keep trying to up your town cred with completely obvious and inane statements to ingratiate yourself and keep suspicion away without actually adding anything...

B_real needs to die. Period. Leaving him alive when claims something to ridiculous is asking for trouble.

[Pink Bunny]

I guess it doesn't help to create another schism, but sure why not!

Unvote
Vote: Demetrius

To explain before I get a "Omg why PB", simple: This vote is placed on the grounds that he's trying to kill off B_Real before we can confirm any of his information at all. Blocking info from Townies = Not a Pro-Town move. Kill him second lynch based on information observed, fine. But the first lynch of the two is stupid.

[Nayno]

Noooooooooo Can't we just lynch Fenris instead of going off on tangents?

A BHS is fine too.

[Demetrius]

The reason I want B_real dead first is because he will use the fact that B-HS is scum to get himself out of the second lynch. The longer he is alive the more chances he will have to manipulate the game to the outcome he desires.

Right now we have, B-HS and Fenris for a couple more lynches. I'm saying that he is too damn dangerous of a player to leave around. This has been demonstrated time and time again. Will you ignore history and fall into his trap?

[P-Sleazy]

Originally Posted by Pink

On the other hand, there is one curious notion that's gotten to me. Why is it when Jedi died that he had that lovers note, but there was no suicide or any followup? That could mean he loved someone who didn't love him back.

Similarly, the same could be said of the other Mafiate. The lady could be manipulating both of them for information. If that were the case though, was Jedi in your Mafia, or the other?

If the other, then you need to narrow down who it is in your own personal Mafia that the lover is. Either way that would mean the woman manipulating the two would have been B_Real.

The reason I know all this information is because I'm part of BOTH mafia groups as a mafia infiltrator, not a lover. Its why on night 2 when Tendronai blocked me, he blocked both mafia's cause both mafia's sent me out to kill Red Fighter cause I told em I get something special if they send me out to kill him. Then I was gonna play them both off against eachother but having one mafia roleclaim PO against Fenris and then the other mafia counter claim a day later against that PO and the other Don (who would conveniently be un-killable at night for those purposes so he'd have to be lynched, and even if a night kill was attempted, theres a handy BG left on the second Don's side to protect him that night), thus fullfilling my win condition. OR, had you guys on the off chance listened to me on day 2 and lynched Fenris I would have roleclaimed PO the next day and called the other don out since Tendy wouldn't have blocked me night 2 because I accurately got one of the Dons and Red would have been killed by my hand that night.

I was also fairly pleased to find out that Masked Jedi was a lover because I had told MJ's don (who isn't Fenris), that there might be someone in the group that was part of both mafia's, or had a connection to the other mafia. And MJ died soon afterwards putting me in the clear about the vagueness of my role and why I wanted us to kill Red Fighter so much at night by my hand.

But since Red fighter died due to a lynch, that no longer matters to me in winning. And I'm fairly sure I can't win with either mafia now since I've been called out. So I'm doing this for a half-win with the town as opposed to a single win with only myself.

Honestly, where could my loyalties lie if I'm part of BOTH mafia's and my goal is to take out BOTH the don's?

Originally Posted by Demetrius

He will feed us the first person and they will be mafia, the next will be the person he needs to die in order for him to win.

Good thing the second person is the other don then ain't it? Also, I'm gonna confirm that you're not part of either mafia too. (Wasted vote here for you PB)

Originally Posted by Moogle

Remember guys we get TWO votes this round, not just one.

Good thing we're not voting for the other don yet, Right Moogle? Nothing about the votes says we have to come by the two lynches at the same time does it? We're gonna get the first lynch out of the way first, to prove I'm telling the truth, then lynch the other don. If you think I'm lying and lynch me now, you'll just have to spend a bunch of time find the other mafia. Remeber what happened in Dragonlance Mafia? 3 of my mafiates were killed off by the vig, but finding those last 2 the town just couldn't handle and lost.

Also, no, I won't be using BHS to get me out of the second lynch. I just want you guys to be sure that I'm telling the truth so that you know that I'm legit.

[Pink Bunny]

Throw us a Bone. Confirm for us right now that BHS isn't Don #2 so if you claim it upon Fenris' lynch we can kill you flat out.

[Nayno]

In all honesty, I don't really care who gets lynched first but I just want to lynch someone already. I mean, B_real has said as little about his role as possible which means we should treat him as we suspected him before (scum). However, he also named Fenris as a suspect and given that he's trying to save himself we've got a good assurance that Fenris is scum. Looking at it this way, it's entirely probable that Fenris is B_real's don and B_real has some kind of power role.

Really, B_real's roleclaim was extremely scummy (can't win anymore but he's trying to direct the game anyway?) but I am very curious about how much information he will actually reveal to save himself.

Lynch any of these three people: BHS, B_real, Fenris and you will have my support. Just make sure we get to BHS before the day is over.

EDIT: Posted this before B_real said all that stuff. Thinking it over now.

[P-Sleazy]

BHS ISN'T the other don. Didn't I say that in one of my earlier posts?

As a matter of fact I did. In post 502.

Originally Posted by Me

So I'll give you the other don if you guys unvote both me and BHS (who is a member of the other mafia, but not the don).

[Pink Bunny]

Back to the original plan for me then.

Unvote: Demetrius
Vote: Fenris

As I understood it Tendy was going to take care of BHS. Unless you believe that replicator gets a preemptive action, like him copying Tendy's power, roleblocking Tendy, and him killing someone.

... Is that possible? o_O

[P-Sleazy]

...who knows. If they both roleblock eachother, I would assume that just means that neither can take any other actions that night. The roleblock for each goes through, but BHS can't kill if he sends himself out (he'll probably take the helm of that particular mafia group after their don dies). And it makes me wonder if I'll have the free-will to refuse to go out to kill since I've come out like this. So that would leave him with one more person to send out, which we'd be lacking a roleblocker for to block him.