Mafia: NPF edition

[Inbred Chocobo]

I'll admit, my gut feeling isn't as strong this time around, so I would be a little hesitent too. I see no reason to change it for now, because its still pretty much all I have to go on. Mostly because Roy hasn't really caught my attention, Ecurt's attack is just meh, and there are still some people who have yet to post.

Edit (It seems like everytime I post nowadays I get ninja'd): As for the post above me, I did a gut feeling thing, nothing more than that. Go for it if you want, don't if you don't.

[Silly Kitty]

Mes has stated she changes how she plays regularly. You can't really get anywhere with that. I've never played a game with her where she wasn't aggressive(in my opinion). You never really can tell with Mes. By how she plays I mean she changes her strategy to win.

[Sithdarth]

Also, on that note, I've been watching people and how they act differently with different roles. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Mesden is a townie for once. I've seen her in every role except bodygaurd and serial killer, and I think I've seen enough of her to figure out what that would look like. She just looks townie to me.

Now see this makes my just a little suspicous. No one has yet Fos'd or voted for Mesden that I could find, although I only searched for bolded things. So why exactly the need to confirm he townieness like that? Hell I'm the one she's trying to build a case against and I don't even really think she's not a townie.

This could be Newb just trying to be usefull before something happens. On the other hand it could be a mafiate seeing a chance to stir up trouble later. Coming out with an eager defense like that for someone no one has expressed really negative feelings about is kind of suspicous. So right they're he could be counting on people to start thinking that they are in league. I'm not entirely sure what the mason situation is so they could just be masons.

On the flip side of this if Newb get revealed as a mafaite then this premptive defense of Mesden could come back to bite her. It is a decent method to make someone seem guilty by assoication, especially if I get killed and revealed as a townie. That would place at least some focus on Mesden which would be compounded by Newb's actions. All in all, I'm a little wary of Newb now but my stance is still more or less the same as it was to everyone else.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Originally Posted by Silly Kitty

so I am gonna FoS: Roy because it seems like you just went along with what Mes said and then said you could be wrong to cover yourself. No vote because that really isn't anything to vote for.

I didn't really go with what Mesden said; I looked at what was going on and stated what I saw. I mentioned two ways the game could go. Then I said I could be totally wrong because, well, I could be.

[neyo the king]

Originally Posted by Ecurt

Now why would anyone assume that "vets" would see Twiddy as a threat? As far as I know from skimming his posts in the Forum Games forum, he hasn't done anything spectacular in any game, at least nothing that would make him considered as a threat-you should know that yourself, since you've played in several games which he signed up for.

That assumption seemed to be a little bit too sure of itself, especially since I can see no justification for Twiddy being a possible threat to the mafia. And you know what, my gut instinct tells me that you're the threat-to the town.

Vote: Neyo

Yazai!

Alright, I'll admit that I could have worded my first post to be a little less definate, but I didn't think saying that I assumed something would accomplish anything. To answer your question of how I came to that conclusion, I just remembered Twiddy playing pretty well in the last mafia or two. I couldn't remember what exactly he was, but I figured it would be a good mafia tactic to get rid of players that might pose a threat to their exsistance.

I wasn't trying to narrow down to a single mafia with that post, I was trying to see how people reacted.

And, having read through so far, I have a gut conclusion.

FoS: Roy.

Please understand that this is but a gut feeling. My feelings is that he's maybe trying a little to hard to be active, but not really contribute as much as he could.

[Truce]

Really, SK, if Roy raised any suspicion, it should have been how he was so ready to defend Neyo before Neyo even has had a chance to talk, going so far to say as "He might have a town role," which you really should never assume this early in the game, and never mention it out loud if you were a townie.

The one time I was an evil role, I tried to convince people you had a good role (which I believed you did), so that the mafia would go after you. Of course, they didn't, but that was the tactic I was trying to use.

Also, he questioned what IC's reasoning was when IC had clearly stated that it was a gut instinct.

As for the Space Pope Vote, if he's inactive then voting him off would actually hurt us less than if we were to vote off an active townie, though I admit that if there is someone more suspicious then we should vote them off first.

And Ogianres-suspecting people just because they seem too helpful is even worse than going after people on a gut instinct. Not only does it clue them in to change tactics (because, unlike other actions, you can't really argue that someone's guilty of being too helpful), less people will post worried that they'll be suspected too, leading to less actual "evidence" to be found. That's pretty anti-game if you ask me.

EDIT: Ninja'd. To be updated after I read Neyo's post.

EDIT x 2!: After reading your post, Neyo, and having heard someone mention that Twiddy did play well in the last game (though, I believe it was mentioned it was because he was mafia, but still), I'm less suspicious of you now than I am some people.

Unvote: Neyo

[Silly Kitty]

Ecurt, for some reason, the Neyo thing didn't really bother me as much as the other thing. I only FoS'd and I only FoS'd because I only got the feeling he was trying to agree too much. Yes, he did say he agreed with Mes' reasoning but then in the next sentence he said he could be wrong. If anyone asked him why is agreed with Mes' logic he could say he thought she had good reasoning but he wasn't sure. *shrugs* That is why I am gonna keep an eye on him.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Originally Posted by Silly Kitty

Ecurt, for some reason, the Neyo thing didn't really bother me as much as the other thing. I only FoS'd and I only FoS'd because I only got the feeling he was trying to agree too much. Yes, he did say he agreed with Mes' reasoning but then in the next sentence he said he could be wrong. If anyone asked him why is agreed with Mes' logic he could say he thought she had good reasoning but he wasn't sure. *shrugs* That is why I am gonna keep an eye on him.

Once again, I did not say I agreed with Mesden, per se, I said she was convincing. It's different, as I then went and said that it could all be a ruse.

[Demonlink2]

I've been gone for a few days, so I've had some catching up to do. Anyhoo, I seems everyone's going on gut feeling because it's always difficult to start a game without making yourself look scummy. Some people have great ideas, most of us are lurking (to detract atention, no doubt). But I'm back and ready to play. And, on a related note, I'm not siding with Ecurt here, I just believe his logic makes sense. Mesden and Sith could be playing the game properly, detracting attention from posssible roles while staying active enough to not look suspicious.

[MasterOfMagic]

Originally Posted by Demonlink2

Some people have great ideas, most of us are lurking (to detract atention, no doubt).

Well...actually, the game just started today. I'm not sure you can accuse anyone of lurking just yet. There's a distinct possiblity that they just don't sit around on their compies all day. :P

And, on a related note, I'm not siding with Ecurt here, I just believe his logic makes sense.

Where in your post did you agree with Ecurt so much that you'd need to say this?