Students Dislike Uniforms, Respond By Burning Them

[Ugainius]

Originally Posted by Meister

I'm tempted to make an Officially Sanctioned Nuklear Power Forum Avatar that everyone must display.

Aren't they the atom signs next to our names?

[Lord of Joshelplex]

Originally Posted by Meister

I'm tempted to make an Officially Sanctioned Nuklear Power Forum Avatar that everyone must display.

Communist regime FTW! Viva la revolution!

[Art of Hilt]

I also like to add that sometimes the school itself is selling the uniform.
Which means they're profiting.
Which means that they're not going to remove a venue of profit just because a bunch of kids don't like it.
At least, that's how it is at my school, those money grabbers.
Thankfully, I don't have to wear a blazer any more. Aha. AHA. AHAHAHAHA. YES.

[delusional_chik]

The point school officials often make about uniforms/dress codes about no bullying is bullshit in the case of the dress code. All the rich kids had their little Tommy Hilfiger or whatever was high-end in the early two-thousands and the poor kids would be wearing the hated pleated pants that look terrible on everyone. The situation was about four thousand times worse for the girls, I think.

Just in my experience, you can still distinguish socio-economic levels. Either don't have anything or go full uniform in my opinion.

[Tyrfing]

While obviously these kids were out of line (not to mention that they were breaking the law),

..which law would that be?

There is no law against destroying your own property. The school's uniform code is not legally enforceable. While there are laws against truancy they'd have to be interpreted in light of their Article 11 rights...or is it Art 10? Arguably both.

[Magus]

Uniforms infringe on individuality, and are usually employed by fascist school regimes, not some lovable liberal scamps trying to make people work together or whatever the heck some of you were saying.

Then again, some schoolgirl uniforms are more revealing than "normal clothes" (which from my observation of females is usually pants nowadays) would be since they involve fairly short skirts, but then again, I'm probably mainly thinking of Japan, where it involves hotness to some extent. In America they would try to be as lame and chaste as possible with uniforms.

Personally I don't think it should be a part of any public school's dress code, as it infringes on personal beliefs, freedom of speech, etc. Private schools can do whatever they want.

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

Originally Posted by Magus

Then again, some schoolgirl uniforms are more revealing than "normal clothes" (which from my observation of females is usually pants nowadays) would be since they involve fairly short skirts

This isn't really all that true, but is kinda'... after a fashion.

The real issue is that it's much easier (see: possible) to make a skirt shorter than it was designed because damn if it's not a goddamn loop of fabric. You just roll the damn thing in a pinch and you can get it way up there. Pants, less so.

In any case, I'm against uniforms with skirts more than uniforms with pants, unless anyone can decide whichever one they want to wear.

[Mannix]

I teach in a couple of schools that require uniforms and I've asked my kids what they think about wearing them after eyeballing this thread a couple of times. By and large they enjoy the practicality and simplicity of wearing them, which kind of surprised me. They feel like it gives them less to worry about in terms of social interaction. The only complaints that I heard was that the uniform is too hot in the summer and not warm enough in the winter. Then again these are Korean kids, and they seem to get a kick out of group identity and school spirit, etc from what I've witnessed.

[Magus]

Yeah, most people agree that Asian societies are very group-based as opposed to individual-based. And not just the blatantly communist ones, of course. One is supposed to think of what is best for the group more than what is best for one's self.

Which is almost the exact opposite of Western societies.

[Regulus Tera]

Originally Posted by Magus

Uniforms infringe on individuality, and are usually employed by fascist school regimes, not some lovable liberal scamps trying to make people work together or whatever the heck some of you were saying.

Personally I don't think it should be a part of any public school's dress code, as it infringes on personal beliefs, freedom of speech, etc. Private schools can do whatever they want...

Yeah, most people agree that Asian societies are very group-based as opposed to individual-based. And not just the blatantly communist ones, of course. One is supposed to think of what is best for the group more than what is best for one's self.

Which is almost the exact opposite of Western societies.

I don't know what to say, except I didn't know Mexico, the United Kingdom, Spain and other countries in this side of the Greenwich meridian were closet fascist regimes.

From what I gather by reading this thread, It think these issues have much more to do with the cultural bias and history of each nation. The United States was created mainly on the basis of self-governance and freedom of speech came very early in its life cycle. However, in other places where that kind of authority isn't as engrained into the populace mindset yet still respects freedom of speech, this is seen as a way to develop respect and order. A bit like wondering why Muslim women dress the way they do and not understanding that such case isn't a threat on feminine rights.

I don't know, I thought this was kind of an interesting experiment in multicultural diversity.