Pokemon Umbral Discussion 14: Discussion Thread Player Character Conspiracy #1

[Geminex]

Y'see, this is why Rayleen wanted to make Renny the leader. You're so goddamned clever that it makes Rayleen want to choke him for being smarter than her in regards to Pokemon battles.

a) That was my idea.
b) Oh, is that why Rayleen wanted to make him leader? Munchkining? Min-maxing? Gah! That's not strategy. That's not leadership. That's taking advantage of loopholes in the rules. You should be punishing him for it, not promoting him! Preferably punishing him, by giving him some competent enemies, who're good as using psych-up and whirlwind.

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

@ Dracorian (Start of Page 2): Shizuka can be a pretty motivated girl as well when it comes to freedom fighting. If you want to get on her good side, you'd better be ready to bid farewell to your world and live in the netherworld with her, crossing over with her into new worlds and fighting alongside her and looking only at her with those perverted eyes and whatnot. Eh, I think you can do it.

Wonder if I could get both Shizuka and Chizuru, somehow...

Hmm... Ideas are circling.

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

Shizuka: "And when you see something like Fujiko posing in the frilliest piece of shit you can buy off of e-bay while rhyming about love and rainbows and destroying evil, then you'll never be able to un-see it."

Okay, for future reference: I am cursed to picture anything I read, see, or hear about in my head. I will never sleep well again after this.

To get my mind off of this disturbing image: fuck you up the ass with the Piercechucks. I was thinking more like the Dragon Slave's blade with a hilt made out of Phantomere's scythe.

Although, if Pierce can actually pull off Piercechucks, it'd be worth it just to see people's reactions.

[Geminex]

Wonder if I could get both Shizuka and Chizuru, somehow...

Hey, step off. I mentioned romance with Shizuka first, bitch.

[Astral Harmony]

You know how it is here in Nuklear Power Forums, Dracorian. If you can't dual-wield, connect the two weapons with a length of chain or rope or something and then you can somehow hope to use both weapons without dual-wielding. And, because this is Nuklear Power Forums, it will somehow actually work even if the two weapons are guitars or skateboards or chijuajuas or something equally menacing.

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Geminex

Hey, step off. I mentioned romance with Shizuka first, bitch.

Sure, but now that we've proven that you can't actually have her she's fair game.

[Geminex]

How have we proven that? So she's something of a workaholic. I can find a workaround.

Alternately, AB, get yer lazy ass to creating a female character with a personality (though not a backstory) that matches Impact's!

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Geminex

Well, I'm going Slayer/Half-demon/Full-demon. No dual-class for me.
What were you thinking, what'd the Trainer/Trainer get?

Oh, I figured it would be something like an upgrade class in a manner of speaking. Then my next upgrade would be half demon. (Well, my character will attempt the Magatama. If Renny somehow ends up as an angel like Kirie, all the better, but there is no way to predict it or plan for it. It's ability would be more support.)
I also told AB that I'm willing to trade away "Trainer Attack" upgrade because I don't plan to have Renny attack directly with weapons, and it's not in his character.
Some stuff listed below which would be neat if I got in terms of the upgrade class.


Pokemon Breeder: These trainers hold an incredible bond with their pokemons due to the immense dedication and effort to raise them beyond the basic requirement of a trainer. While pokemon trainers are challenged to learn about the pokemons that exist and how to harness them, the breeder has a higher calling in the vocation to bring out the very best out of one's pokemons. When a breeder is a trainer too, one can be easily assured that their proteges have been groomed to the sheer pinacle of excellence.

(The following are just list of suggestions of benefits for the Pokemon Breeder, if it gets approved.)
A: All pokemons are level 100. Assume that 2 of each of the pokemons stats are at their maximum value as according to Serebii's website, as a result of careful EV training. Assume that nature is beneficial.
B: Custom Items
C: Being able to change movesets once per mission in between combat.
D: Damage dealt to pokemons are increased by a certain percentage due to being a practiced professional in pokemon battles. (not ruin pokemon or pokebrids or anything that isn't a pokemon.)
E: The Leader Pokemon and maybe the others having a sort of Testament Drive.
F: Ability to teach a move that is normally not available to a pokemon, within reason. Like teaching Punishment to Umbreon. It's a dark move that Umbreon cannot learn despite being a dark type.
G: Each one of Renny's pokemon gain an attack that gains power via the happiness rating similar to Return that is one of the element type of whatever type the pokemon is. Such a move is treated as an HM and doesn't take up a move slot. Probably has a power of 120ish or so. (Return has 102 power when maxed)


EDIT: Also, I think there is more to Rayleen wanting Renny to be leader than just that such as personality or whatever (in-character). But in terms of the sort of tactics that Gem is talking about, we have been put in railroad plot pretty much, so Renny never had a chance to show if he's good at it or no.

[Geminex]

A: All pokemons are level 100. Assume that 2 of each of the pokemons stats are at their maximum value as according to Serebii's website, as a result of careful EV training. Assume that nature is beneficial.
B: Custom Items
C: Being able to change movesets once per mission in between combat.
D: Damage dealt to pokemons are increased by a certain percentage due to being a practiced professional in pokemon battles. (not ruin pokemon or pokebrids or anything that isn't a pokemon.)
E: The Leader Pokemon and maybe the others having a sort of Testament Drive.
F: Ability to teach a move that is normally not available to a pokemon, within reason. Like teaching Punishment to Umbreon. It's a dark move that Umbreon cannot learn despite being a dark type.
G: Each one of Renny's pokemon gain an attack that gains power via the happiness rating similar to Return that is one of the element type of whatever type the pokemon is. Such a move is treated as an HM and doesn't take up a move slot. Probably has a power of 120ish or so. (Return has 102 power when maxed)

Just my two cents:
A) Seems allright, though aren't all pokemon at level 100 anyway?
B) How strong would these items be?
C) Sounds cool
D) What percentage?
E) I'd say only the two leaders. And not nearly as powerful as a legendary's.
F) Please not this one. You'd abuse the hell out of it.
G) Not 120. That'd be excessive. If it uses a move-slot, I'd be fine with 120, but as a free move? I'd give it 100 at best.

[Menarker]

A: AB said that our pokemons are around 70s when we started, so I expect we're around late 70 or early 80s at this point. Maybe late 80s or early 90s for legendaries or leaders.

B: Well, basically they wouldn't be anything terribly drastic, but something that operates more on conditions than actual straight % boost. Here is a sample item.

Loyal Support Scarf (Unique Item)
Effect: Once per battle, when a Hit Points of a pokemon would be reduced to zero for any reason except for self use moves that directly make the pokemon faint such as Explosion, that pokemon's hitpoint remains at 1 instead for the entire turn regardless of how many times or how strongly it is hit or the effects of moves that hit it, unless the item is stolen/knocked off in the process. This item works regardless of whether of the damage is direct damage, status damage like confusion or poison or ghost curse, weather like sandstorm, or even OHKO move. The item is not consumed in the process. Only Renny's Pokemon can equip it and only one of this item can exist. If the item would be stolen, it is knocked off instead.

D: I was thinking 25%, no more than 50% boost. (Similar to a Permanent Helping Hand)

E: Only leaders and not exactly as powerful as legendaries sounds ok. (Although Mollesk is technically as powerful as Mewtwo stat wise and Togekiss would be a psuedo legendary if his attack stat was proportional to his other stats.)

F: Fine. That's cool. Not this one.

G: 100 power HM move with free ability to be whatever element the pokemon using it is? (If Swampert uses it, it's either a ground or water move). And its attack type (physical or special) can be chosen. (So Togekiss doesn't end up with a crappy Attack move or Swampert with an inferior Special Attack move)

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Geminex

How have we proven that? So she's something of a workaholic. I can find a workaround.

More like there's no way for Impact to date Shizuka without developing a rivalry.

Which would be a breach of our agreement (and it took forever for us to come to that, you sure you wanna throw it away like that?). Which would in turn breach every agreement we ever made because I'd have no reason to trust you anymore, and we'd descend into apathy.

In the end, we'd spend twenty discussion threads per RP thread arguing, trying to screw each other over while trying to get AB to approve whatever ridiculous shit we want for our characters.

You sure you wanna do that? Because I do. But I'm a man of my word.

Besides, if it makes you feel better, Rayleen has made more progress with Harliette than Pierce with Chizuru.

And his relationship with Shizuka amounts to her playing with him like a six-year-old.

Menarker, in regards to:

A) Sounds great except for having their pokemon at level 100. The rest of us only have pokemon at level 70, and it's a huuuuuuuuuuuuge difference between 100 and 70.
E) I agree with Impact, just the leaders and not as strong as legendaries.
F) If and only if AB approves it, and it's made public to the rest of us players so we can discuss it.
G) I'd say 110 or 105.