Dissidia Duodecim Final Fantasy continues Squeenix's tradition of stupid titles

[Nique]

Including Seifer would be pointless and difficult from a gameplay perspective because of his abilities, and he wouldn't be winning any more sales from the undecided.

Also Dissidia lacked the kind of fan service that only including female characters - Tifa, Aerith, Quistis, Rinoa, Yuna, etc - could provide. I mean, really? ONE female character? And the midget thing from XI? Come on.

Plus Tifa would have been an awesome character to play with in this game.

[Kim]

Originally Posted by mudah.swf

None of the shotoclones in SF games really play like each other. Except maybe early SF2s

From what I've seen, they all have very similar movesets, and the only difference is the emphasis on moves. Best example I can think of is Ryu seems more Hadoken focused, and Ken is more Shoryuken focused.

It's not be being naive. It's me having a clue about game design. I know the logic behind these kinds of decisions because I've had to make them with my own projects since 2006. Four years of practice, albeit self-taught, is really nothing to sneeze at.

I will sneeze at it. I will sneeze at it like crazy.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Originally Posted by mudah.swf

None of the shotoclones in SF games really play like each other. Except maybe early SF2s

They all have pretty much the same moves though, which is what the complaint is with Seifer- that he would have the same moves as Squall.

It's a fair point that it not being marketed to the audience at large- I don't relaly know- but they probably could do itand I'm surprised if they don't. And fill it with female characters- that would help sales a lot.

[Squall Leonhart]

This is the best birthday ever.

Unless this game gets released this same day next year. Then that would be the best birthday ever.

Anyway, I've found some nice stuff about the game confirmed via a translated scan.

Reveal Scan

Originally Posted by Dissidia Duodecium Scan Translated

Since I had the day off, I went through and translated the entire thing (other than the tiny blurb at the the bottom about Aya being able to wear Lightning's costume in Parasite Eve: 3rd Birthday). For those of you who want the summary version -


This is a sequel to Dissidia and will cover a new war between Light and Dark

Cecil and Garland are confirmed to be returning

Kain has the HP attack "Gungnir" and is a strong aerial character

Lightning has the EX-Burst Zantetsuken and will wield both her sword and magic

There is a new double-gauge at the bottom of the HUD, no idea what this will be used for but that confirms at least one new element to the battle system. However, (and this is just my theory) it looks like a two-level EX-Gauge.


With TGS next week, we can hope for more news about additional characters and features!

Source: http://community.livejournal.com/ffc...os/253861.html

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by NonCon

I will sneeze at it. I will sneeze at it like crazy.

Well, that's your right. I'm just trying to provide a design perspective, as always. A designer's perspective will never fully mesh with a consumer's perspective. Normal people just don't have the technical knowledge to understand what goes into design decisions.

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

They all have pretty much the same moves though, which is what the complaint is with Seifer- that he would have the same moves as Squall.

It's a fair point that it not being marketed to the audience at large- I don't relaly know- but they probably could do itand I'm surprised if they don't. And fill it with female characters- that would help sales a lot.

What I'm seeing is that they're already adding Cain because of his involvement in The After Years and as FF4's resident badass. FF4 currently has greater market presence than FF8 because of the recent releases. Cain holds the additional benefit of offering a different style of play to work with.

Seifer, on the other hand, isn't as important right now because of lack of visibility minus a rather quiet PSN release. He also has already been rejected once and had references to his moves rolled into Squall's move set, which means they'd have to put in work to take them out, rather than recycling the resources. I'm going to guess that with Lightning being in that they won't want a third gunblade-user anyway. Lightning was almost in the last time around, but she has her own unique abilities from FF13, so they still have more to work with than they do with Seifer.



Edit: Squall, could you [SWAP] tag that image?

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Why are they announcing Kain? He was already in Dissidia.

[McTahr]

Originally Posted by Mac

Why are they announcing Kain? He was already in Dissidia.

What? IV's cast was Cecil and Golbez in Dissidia, unless he made a cameo that I missed.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Originally Posted by McTahr

What? IV's cast was Cecil and Golbez in Dissidia, unless he made a cameo that I missed.

Goddammit That was not Cecil! Cecil is a Paladn. Paladins do not jump around like a goddamn mexican jumping beans. Also, contrary to what WoW says, Paladins do not use Spears!

[Nique]

Normal people just don't have the technical knowledge to understand what goes into design decisions.

Arrgh. Blues! No! You're teetering dangerously close to having a 'relevant degree' here.

Really I think they're just coming from the 'Square is gonna do anythang to make a buck here' perspective. Though really I have to agree with you - I just don't see Seifer as being a character anyone would want to play. But then again pickings are slim for good or just consistent villains from FF8.

I'm going to guess that with Lightning being in that they won't want a third gunblade-user anyway. Lightning was almost in the last time around, but she has her own unique abilities from FF13, so they still have more to work with than they do with Seifer.

Actually I see Lightning as a Dissidia character being way too similar to Squall as he ended up with a fair amount of magic attacks himself. But, I mean, maybe she will be his replacement and this game will be like, a bunch of the other A-list they left out from the first one.

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Nique

Arrgh. Blues! No! You're teetering dangerously close to having a 'relevant degree' here.

This is why I continuously sneeze at his relevant gaming knowledge. Sneeze like a motherfucker.

Really I think they're just coming from the 'Square is gonna do anythang to make a buck here' perspective.

Partially that. Partially the fact that fanservice is pretty much the entire point of Dissidia, unless I missed something. I mean, when you make a game about "What if characters from every Final Fantasy beat the shit out of each other?" and don't make an effort to include as many popular characters as possible, something is wrong.

Though really I have to agree with you - I just don't see Seifer as being a character anyone would want to play. But then again pickings are slim for good or just consistent villains from FF8.

This too. If you're going to bring in other characters from VIII Seifer is the most logical choice. Rinoa might make it in, but Seifer just seems like a sure bet, especially if they're going for a different roster rather than expanded.