Pokemon Umbral Theatre 11: Things That Make You Go Wuh? - Page 6

Menarker · 10-06-2010, 07:26 PM

Yeah, agreed. I just mentioned it because I thought it was kinda cool.

Dracorion · 10-06-2010, 07:52 PM

Three for two isn't nearly as nice a payoff as two for one, though.

Geminex · 10-07-2010, 06:20 PM

Nah. Plus 2 to 3 allies' speed for 3 turns is utterly OP. Hell, two is pretty strong already. Sure, it has a time limit. But agility loses its effect when the user dies, and that happens way sooner. I'd like to amend it to give just plus 1 to speed

And yeah, uni started for me. I really haven't had time to consider plans. Gimme one more day. PMs should start trickling in, though.

Dracorion · 10-07-2010, 06:23 PM

You're a goober.

Also, I was talking about Surf and moves like that.

Menarker · 10-07-2010, 06:30 PM

Technically, Tailwind doesn't give +2 to your speed stat. It doubles the speed stat. It is a bonus that stacks on top of stat bonuses, in the same manner that a rock pokemon in a sandstorm can have +6 to special defense and have it improve even higher. Or the ability Pure Power or the item Thick Club. It's not a standard stage buff like Agility which could be dispelled. Tailwind isn't technically dispellable. (And yet, it's not a barrier that can be broken like the other two I mentioned which could be broken by Brick Break.)

An example would be a Ninjask who lives long enough to get +6 speed boost. If he gets effected by Tailwind, his incredibly absurd speed would get DOUBLED.

Dracorion · 10-09-2010, 06:21 PM

I swear to God, I'm going to make your plans for you if you girls don't hurry up and post.

I'm bored!

Geminex · 10-09-2010, 06:50 PM

Okay, okay, geez.

Sorry, though. Uni is buuuuusy. I mean fuck. Next week's gonna be worse as well. But anyway, plans.

Menarker, once again: Attacks that affect 'all targets on the field' are balanced for two combatants per side. But for battles of this scale? Not so much.

I'm fine with weather effects, for now, but I don't think that gravity should have that kind of effect. Mind you, if it does, using it is a pretty good idea. But like I said, it's pretty powerful, if situational. I don't think it should affect more than 3 units on either side.

And while we're balancing, we should probably reduce tailwind to give +1, if it'll be affecting 3 targets. +2... yeah, not so good, I think. Fine for one target, debatable for 2. Not for 3.

Impact's carrying:
5 rage rockets
1 full restore

Flamethrower
LH thrower

Titan's Fist (or whichever one does ground damage)
Ruin Rifle

Electric Rod
Gothic claws

That'll make me super-effective against everything but Dark types, and I can use Kurika for those.
Armor gonna be Ruin, Ground, one other I'm not sure of.

Accessories... Hmm, gotta think about that. Probably one active, one passive.

The plan itself... Impact should be attacking, rather than Kurika. He can do more with his rage. I don't think that'll endanger us very much at all.

Moon shouldn't be contructing. We need that rage for later. This battle isn't gonna be easy, but let's not use too many resources just yet.

I don't quite see why you want Whitney out of combat? She does more damage than her pokemon, certainly. And she's not gonna get attacked, after all! If she gets knocked out, her pokemon go rogue!

...

Y'know, I'm half-suspecting you're being overprotective of your love interests. With this suspicion comes a realization that the only thing more annoying than Menarker-Determined-To-Min-Max is Menarker-With-A-Libido.
And trust me, if my suspicion turns out to be true?
I'll be eliminating that problem.
...
At the source.

Dracorion · 10-09-2010, 07:13 PM

Pffft.

You can't kill Renny.

That'd open the door for killing PCs, and you know Impact would be the first one to go.

Believe me, it's already planned out.

Or if you mean, kicking Menarker himself out, well, same problem for you.

On Battle Masters. Just because they can't technically be killed doesn't mean they can't be riddled with status effects. This is just one of those rare situations where the enemies we're facing don't actually have statuses to inflict with surety. Except for Burn, I guess.

Geminex · 10-09-2010, 07:15 PM

I never said I wanted to kill him.

And do you really think that if I struck against an NPC, any of you would have the chance to strike back? Naaah. I don't like revenge unless I'm dealing it out.

Dracorion · 10-09-2010, 07:18 PM

I hate to break this to you, Gem, but you're not nearly as smart as you think you are.

I'm perfectly comfortable letting you keep on believing that most of the time because I can take advantage of your mind-boggling arrogance.

But sometimes, like right now, even I just don't have the heart.

10-06-2010, 07:26 PM	#51
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Yeah, agreed. I just mentioned it because I thought it was kinda cool. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

10-06-2010, 07:52 PM	#52
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Three for two isn't nearly as nice a payoff as two for one, though. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

10-07-2010, 06:23 PM	#54
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	You're a goober. Also, I was talking about Surf and moves like that. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

10-07-2010, 06:30 PM	#55
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Technically, Tailwind doesn't give +2 to your speed stat. It doubles the speed stat. It is a bonus that stacks on top of stat bonuses, in the same manner that a rock pokemon in a sandstorm can have +6 to special defense and have it improve even higher. Or the ability Pure Power or the item Thick Club. It's not a standard stage buff like Agility which could be dispelled. Tailwind isn't technically dispellable. (And yet, it's not a barrier that can be broken like the other two I mentioned which could be broken by Brick Break.) An example would be a Ninjask who lives long enough to get +6 speed boost. If he gets effected by Tailwind, his incredibly absurd speed would get DOUBLED. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 10-07-2010 at 06:33 PM.

10-09-2010, 06:21 PM	#56
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	I swear to God, I'm going to make your plans for you if you girls don't hurry up and post. I'm bored! __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

10-07-2010, 06:20 PM	#53
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Nah. Plus 2 to 3 allies' speed for 3 turns is utterly OP. Hell, two is pretty strong already. Sure, it has a time limit. But agility loses its effect when the user dies, and that happens way sooner. I'd like to amend it to give just plus 1 to speed And yeah, uni started for me. I really haven't had time to consider plans. Gimme one more day. PMs should start trickling in, though.

10-09-2010, 06:50 PM	#57
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Okay, okay, geez. Sorry, though. Uni is buuuuusy. I mean fuck. Next week's gonna be worse as well. But anyway, plans. Menarker, once again: Attacks that affect 'all targets on the field' are balanced for two combatants per side. But for battles of this scale? Not so much. I'm fine with weather effects, for now, but I don't think that gravity should have that kind of effect. Mind you, if it does, using it is a pretty good idea. But like I said, it's pretty powerful, if situational. I don't think it should affect more than 3 units on either side. And while we're balancing, we should probably reduce tailwind to give +1, if it'll be affecting 3 targets. +2... yeah, not so good, I think. Fine for one target, debatable for 2. Not for 3. Impact's carrying: 5 rage rockets 1 full restore Flamethrower LH thrower Titan's Fist (or whichever one does ground damage) Ruin Rifle Electric Rod Gothic claws That'll make me super-effective against everything but Dark types, and I can use Kurika for those. Armor gonna be Ruin, Ground, one other I'm not sure of. Accessories... Hmm, gotta think about that. Probably one active, one passive. The plan itself... Impact should be attacking, rather than Kurika. He can do more with his rage. I don't think that'll endanger us very much at all. Moon shouldn't be contructing. We need that rage for later. This battle isn't gonna be easy, but let's not use too many resources just yet. I don't quite see why you want Whitney out of combat? She does more damage than her pokemon, certainly. And she's not gonna get attacked, after all! If she gets knocked out, her pokemon go rogue! ... Y'know, I'm half-suspecting you're being overprotective of your love interests. With this suspicion comes a realization that the only thing more annoying than Menarker-Determined-To-Min-Max is Menarker-With-A-Libido. And trust me, if my suspicion turns out to be true? I'll be eliminating that problem. ... At the source.

10-09-2010, 07:13 PM	#58
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Pffft. You can't kill Renny. That'd open the door for killing PCs, and you know Impact would be the first one to go. Believe me, it's already planned out. Or if you mean, kicking Menarker himself out, well, same problem for you. On Battle Masters. Just because they can't technically be killed doesn't mean they can't be riddled with status effects. This is just one of those rare situations where the enemies we're facing don't actually have statuses to inflict with surety. Except for Burn, I guess. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away. Last edited by Dracorion; 10-09-2010 at 07:16 PM.

10-09-2010, 07:15 PM	#59
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	I never said I wanted to kill him. And do you really think that if I struck against an NPC, any of you would have the chance to strike back? Naaah. I don't like revenge unless I'm dealing it out.

10-09-2010, 07:18 PM	#60
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	I hate to break this to you, Gem, but you're not nearly as smart as you think you are. I'm perfectly comfortable letting you keep on believing that most of the time because I can take advantage of your mind-boggling arrogance. But sometimes, like right now, even I just don't have the heart. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

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