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Unread 09-22-2012, 01:52 AM   #51
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In Jagos' defense, he did a fine job of news threadmaking on this one. OPs like these are great and should be encouraged.

It's just a shame the whole thing got cocked up by other stuff.
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Unread 09-22-2012, 02:09 AM   #52
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THE PYROS RHETORIC CLASS IS PROVEN EFFECTIVE! (there were multiple links, the second two being used to back up the first)

This was just a mildly loaded topic because the subjective sphere of influence for REP vs DEM is always way bigger than anyone thinks- You can't really talk about candidates favorite deodorant spray without hitting a nerve somewhere because someone will make an offhand comment and someone else will take that offhand comment as offensive because it implied things, anything, about someone or something and then they'll blanket it over the whole party, including themselves.

If you are ever expecting a straightforward discussion of politics, it's always best to never mention political parties, nor mention the lack thereof. If you're party neutral about it, people who disagree will pin you as being of the opposite party, if they agree they will pin you as their own, and hopefully they will assume it goes without saying what your leanings are- wearing a kind of chamelon hat as it were with regards to red and blue and green, and alienating none.

That said, in reiteration, a decent news thread will begin with a topical news piece up for discussion, as well as at least two similar cited sources that support the original in some way along with the usual explanatory text. Less is a more on text if you don't trust the weight of your own words in swaying others.

It's probably a good idea not to make new threads on a similar vein of topic so you don't over saturate your reader base, but updating this one with cumulative updates would be effective, and link to all updates in an edited first post.
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Unread 09-22-2012, 02:13 AM   #53
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POS, I'm inclined to agree with you until right about here

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Welcome to the end of the Republican party.
where it totally jumps over the line into propagandatown.

Like, the rest of the post is great, but that last line is just conjecture.
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Unread 09-22-2012, 02:15 AM   #54
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I look at it less as sensationalism and more as hopeful optimism.
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Unread 09-22-2012, 02:18 AM   #55
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I look at it less as sensationalism and more as hopeful optimism.
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Jagos could make better threads* (Not that they're bad at this point, he improved hardcore since his times of linking to videos without explaining what it's even about, also, he's by far not the only one guilty of that) if they relied less on youtube clips I can't watch anyway and already knowing every public personality in America. Like, maybe explain who the fuck that Obama guy is. I hear the name getting thrown around, sure, but is he good, is he bad? Which TV station does he run? And why the fuck do american politics rely on one person? Don't you have political parties that do the actual politics for the smiling person who waves their hands a lot while sitting in a very assassin friendly car? Is it really like that in the US? Or do I live in the only "democratic" country in the world where candidates only determine which aspect of an opinion you get to hear and maybe also the wording and a good face to punch (Guttenberg and Westerwelle are very punchable. Too bad the former got exposed for what arguably is abuse of authority, it's pretty good his entire party is very punchable, though). If so you might actually live in a dictatorship.

That's something that has bothered me for a while, do you really give one person so much power? It kind of baffles me that the country prides itself with being a democracy. Unless I'm completely wrong, in that case please elaborate. Hell, I already think Germany is a borderline case when it comes to that kinda thing.
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Unread 09-22-2012, 03:22 AM   #57
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Being quite honest, i rarely ever stick around much for Jago's Threads, just cause they always kinda feel like the non-partisan version of Fox News... but like... not vile. And even when (and if) there is bullshit, it's not made up bullshit like the actual Fox News, y'know? Most of the time is actually at least interesting to know what he weekly posts...

As for THIS subject... i just am quite curious to see how it will play out during the big debates, specially if they take in questions from the public live...
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When I hear about a topic and I'm unsure how to react to it, I come to NPF to find Jagos' thread about it. He summarizes neatly and provides a good launch point for conversations, which can help me sort out the best way to express myself.
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Unread 09-22-2012, 12:12 PM   #59
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Unread 09-22-2012, 07:33 PM   #60
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where it totally jumps over the line into propagandatown.

Like, the rest of the post is great, but that last line is just conjecture.
There's an entire post about the history of voter suppression that I could go into here. Essentially, the Republican party is not big enough on political ideas that are good for the country. They still believe in Reagonomics, fervent dogma, and propaganda coming from Fox News over facts. Given that their party is literally a fringe party at this point, while the Democratic Party is filled with more people of varying degrees of liberalism and conservatism, they really ARE a party that is about to die off. They can't function with more conservatism and the country won't allow it if the vote is showing how people don't like their tactics.
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