Big Bang Theory: Worst Thing on TV or Just the Unfunniest Thing on TV? Discuss.

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by Lumenskir

Two things: (1) Raj isn't 'shy around women', he can't talk to women unless he's "drunk" (Read As: holding something vaguely alcholicish (seriously, he chugged cough syrup for an episode and that counted)).

So he is 'shy' (antisocial) around women, but the reasoning given for said shyness is even worse than simply being shy because it perpetuates the myth that Alcohol Solves All Problems.

[synkr0nized]

Originally Posted by Lumenskir

Two things: (1) Raj isn't 'shy around women', he can't talk to women unless he's "drunk" (Read As: holding something vaguely alcholicish (seriously, he chugged cough syrup for an episode and that counted)).

(2) I, already covered this:


I was responding to the statement that "No TV = Best TV", which I assumed meant not watching any television. If you meant it as cutting the cord or only watching good TV, then I misread and I apologize.

To the Raj bit:
Actually, quite often men who are shy around women find their courage in alcohol or get loosened up enough that way to realize it's not difficult at all. While it's certainly not the only way to for a person to cope with such a situation, it is arguably quite common. I don't see why you would claim that's not the same thing, unless you are trying to emphasize that the folks behind the show mean to whittle it down to only being a gag to make Raj drink. If that's the case, though, that's not really where Snake's coming from with that argument and not wholly relevant.

Your second point isn't really an argument or anything, not when you first posted it and not again here.


About the TV comment:
Even if it was "no TV = the best TV" meaning not watching any of it, how is that "the stupidest thing ever"? I am sure there are plenty of people who don't play video games; are they also stupid? What about, say, folks who don't watch or follow sports? Or who don't read books or comics or <insert other format>? No matter if you misinterpreted or not, I'm inclined to agree with Skweeb that it was an awful comment to post regardless, despite the intended hyperbole I am sure was behind it.


And here I thought Bells was the only one overreacting in this thread.

[Bells]

Snake, two things...

First, your "in short" is actually longer than the thing you wrote before...

Secondly, although it doesn't disqualifies your personal assessment of the situation presented on the show, you just got the joke there completely ass backwards.

I was going into a bit more detail on why exactly i think you are missing the point here... but seeing your posts, i actually do have to ask this: Exactly how much of this show do you know or have actually seen?

[Lumenskir]

Actually, quite often men who are shy around women find their courage in alcohol or get loosened up enough that way to realize it's not difficult at all. While it's certainly not the only way to for a person to cope with such a situation, it is arguably quite common. I don't see why you would claim that's not the same thing, unless you are trying to emphasize that the folks behind the show mean to whittle it down to only being a gag to make Raj drink. If that's the case, though, that's not really where Snake's coming from with that argument and not wholly relevant.

Sorry, thought I had said he wasn't just shy around women, he was so shy he actually had one of his only two characteristics devoted to it.

Even if it was "no TV = the best TV" meaning not watching any of it, how is that "the stupidest thing ever"? I am sure there are plenty of people who don't play video games; are they also stupid? What about, say, folks who don't watch or follow sports? Or who don't read books or comics or <insert other format>? No matter if you misinterpreted or not, I'm inclined to agree with Skweeb that it was an awful comment to post regardless, despite the intended hyperbole I am sure was behind it.

If you don't play video games, or follow sports, or read books, that is perfectly fine. If you then say that not playing video games is the only reasonable action and then point to one bad video game, then that is pretty stupid.

We are living in a golden age of television, and all it takes is some time to experience some really great art. If you don't want to experience that, that's fine. If you want to denigrate the entire medium because of a few bad examples, that's stupid.

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by Bells

Snake, two things...

First, your "in short" is actually longer than the thing you wrote before...

Secondly, although it doesn't disqualifies your personal assessment of the situation presented on the show, you just got the joke there completely ass backwards.

I was going into a bit more detail on why exactly i think you are missing the point here... but seeing your posts, i actually do have to ask this: Exactly how much of this show do you know or have actually seen?

Haha aren't you just so hysterical with your snide and completely unnecessary commentary on the possible misuse of "in short," I guess it'd be far too much to ask you to respond to the actual substantive arguments I was making instead.

I've probably watched about a dozen episodes in full and snippets of another ten or episodes while my parents and/or siblings controlled the television.
I don't think I could stand to watch any more than that.

EDIT: Oh, I see. Apparently you mistook the "in short" as encompassing the entirety of the remainder of my argument. Actually, the "in short" was just summarizing the boys' misogyny in that one paragraph. Then I moved on to the completely different subjects of Raj's homophobia and Penny as an 'ideal' recipient of Nice Guy affection.

[pochercoaster]

I watched this show for 3 minutes once and it seemed pretty shit so I never watched it again.

[synkr0nized]

Hey, remember that time when we kind of didn't like it when folks got on Seil for making Seil posts? OK, maybe you don't, but I know at least Fifth and I got irritated by that.

Let's just stop going down that path with Snake. He makes points and arguments, and if your (this is everyone, not Bells, as we've all seen this enough; Hell, I may even have been guilty of it myself) only response is going to be "tl;dr" or similar, you probably don't need to respond.

[Steel Shadow]

This thread: Worst thread on the forums, or just a bunch of people complaining about shows they don't watch?

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by synkr0nized

Hey, remember that time when we kind of didn't like it when folks got on Seil for making Seil posts? OK, maybe you don't, but I know at least Fifth and I got irritated by that.

Let's just stop going down that path with Snake. He makes points and arguments, and if your (this is everyone, not Bells, as we've all seen this enough; Hell, I may even have been guilty of it myself) only response is going to be "tl;dr" or similar, you probably don't need to respond.

Personally I just find it funny that my reputation's beginning to precede me, because I haven't even typed the longest Walls of Text in this thread.

[Bells]

Calm down big fella... i did answer it earlier. You simply got it wrong. Plot point, character traits, character descriptions, episode structure.... you show a minimal underlining understanding of the show you are thoroughly commenting stuff on, that isn't there or is simply completely wrong.

I'm not even saying if i agree with you or not, i'm saying you are literally talking about it like someone who saw those "commercial snipts promoting new seasons" a couple of times in a year and made a profound analyses of the show in dept out of just that...

If you really want to form an opinion of this show, do as i suggested, rent a season, give it a look... right now you are all over the place and really really wrong. I promise you, your skin will not burn, your eyes will not bleed, your credit rating will not go down... but right now, be right or wrong, you really have no idea what you're talking about...