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Unread 12-02-2007, 11:23 PM   #591
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Well, Roy beat Lust. With fire.
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Unread 12-03-2007, 12:33 AM   #592
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Roy beat PRIDE, not lust. :P

And Roy 2D Scar 4D

Roy is no less than 3....He brought himself back from the brink of suicide, began a rise to power, and then risked his hard work to stop Pride....

Scar isn't more than 3 on a good day.....
"Alchemist killed my village, I kill them!" REALLYYYYYY original there. :P
His best points were after losing limbs when he saved Al.
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Unread 12-03-2007, 12:34 AM   #593
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Dimensions invoke character change. Roy had an essential character that changed once through the series. Scar had several character realizations that advanced within the plot itself. Regardless of how much you may like a character, Roy only changed after 1 notable event in the series, which everyone remembers. I can't name on one hand how many times Scar shifted with the plot.

This is how character dimensions work -- they add more facets to the character. You can still like Roy more.

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Well, Roy beat Lust. With fire.
Yet Scar would still beat Roy in a fight. Neener. Also, mangaspoilers much?
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Unread 12-03-2007, 12:37 AM   #594
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He killed Lust. Ripped her philosopher's stone heart out(badassly), then attempted to heal Havoc with it(3d characterishly). Then he used Havoc's cigarette lighter to start a fire because his glove was wet. I've heard the manga differs from the anime, that might be why.
3D characters have muliple facets, too.
Scar=Avenger
Roy= Lecher with commitment issues , Ambitious-but-somewhat-rightous-schemer, budding romance with Hawkeye, leader-devoted to his subordanates, man-seeking-redemption-for-past-crimes...
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Unread 12-03-2007, 12:38 AM   #595
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Attempting to heal a character previously set up as said character's friend doesn't add a dimension to that character. It matter of factly makes them stay in the same dimension.

Right, retroactive change. You can undercut all you want. All of those things Roy had he had at the very beginning of the series. He changed with Hughes Death, thus giving him 2Dimensions. Scar changed more often and was more reflective of the plot. Ed is also a 4D (4D includes anyone at 4 and higher) character.

Just because a character has more dimensions doesn't mean you have to like them more, though, so I don't see what the big defense here is. Static characters are needed in a series.

God why does this keep happening in the RaiRO forum. Just PM me if you want to talk about this anymore.
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Back on topic...

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clearly, we must now fight to the death.
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I don't know about you guys but I think Fachx just got an advantage.

He's in a cardboard box :gonk:
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I don't know about you guys but I think Fachx just got an advantage.

He's in a cardboard box :gonk:
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Clearly Xonix's plea for rum means she's on my side.
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