Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 683

Aldurin · 05-04-2011, 11:57 PM

Actually this may be Hussie trying to fool us and Tavros will somehow come back to life (in God Tier no less) and finally stab Vriska, thus making the ancestor thing more accurate than we would currently think.

Marc v4.0 · 05-05-2011, 12:01 AM

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Surely one at least on the scale of the sectarian revolt crushed 8y the High8loods, who thereafter for8ade its mention, or any invoc8tion of the heretical sym69ls at all, even in private journals.

Ohhoho!

And ninja'd anyway

BitVyper · 05-05-2011, 12:14 AM

I don't think Hussie really tries to fool people. Not actively, anyway. While there are red herrings here and there for the purpose of enhancing various mysteries, he almost never seems to be trying to draw you toward false conclusions. Once you're acquainted with his particular storytelling method, you just have to be careful not to jump right on things, and be aware that he plays word games. The closest he does to trying to fool anybody is playing with and fueling speculation that already exists (Jack = Lord English has existed since all the way back in the Midnight Crew intermission, for instance). Even then though, I can't recall any instances where there such matters weren't at least addressed in comic. He is a pretty honest storyteller.

Tavros is certainly someone who would have just cause to stab him some Vriska. I don't think this is really intended to make that seem likely, however.

Speaking of red herrings; in spite of the fact that we've been given a likely candidate for Karkancestor, the association with His Honourable Tyranny is still pretty undeniable. I suspect there is SOME relation there, although it doesn't necessarily have to be genetic in n8ture.

Locke cole · 05-05-2011, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by katiuska

Nice... interesting choice. I kind of want to do my own set, but I haven't gotten past the two most obvious ones (Fool is John and Justice is Terezi).

I'm actually not quite sure about John as The Fool. Not sure how to reconcile him with the card's meaning (unexpected opportunity, major change. A sort of "anything-can-happen" card)

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 05-05-2011, 12:15 AM

I think this might be a bit more evidence that what might have been a recurrence was utterly fucked by Vriska trying to force it to happen.

Poor fuckin' Tavros, man.

BitVyper · 05-05-2011, 12:20 AM

Anyone else noticing weird artifacts popping up in the images? I'm wondering if these are messed up animated gifs, or if the weirdness is intentional.

Locke cole · 05-05-2011, 12:20 AM

So many things got screwed up by Vriska trying to be Mindfang.

She pursued a rivalry with Eridan that went nowhere and just made him long for more. (possibly leading to his rivalry obsession and murderous outbreak later on? I dunno)

She tried to use Equius much the way that Mindfang used his mechanist ancestor, but that was wasted on such a... fundamentalist Troll.

She imagined that she could have as great a rival in Terezi as Mindfang had in Redglare, but that all ended in tragedy.

She tried to groom Tavros into the second coming of the Summoner, but all she did was break him.

Mindfang was right to warn readers about the journal. About how it could bind people as badly as viewing the cueball had bound her. Though, in hindsight, she probably should've put that on page 1, as an addendum.

BitVyper · 05-05-2011, 12:25 AM

Mindfang calls Mr. 69 The Sufferer... doesn't look good for Karkat if this IS his ancestor.

Locke cole · 05-05-2011, 12:26 AM

Similar, but not exact. Remember the mechanist and the Summoner. Quite different from their descendants.

BitVyper · 05-05-2011, 12:32 AM

Equius was an adept mechanist. Tavros was definitely quite a summoner. I imagine that The Sufferer's descendant, if he has one, would have some suffering to look forward to.

Edit: Of course, that could mean a whooole lotta things.

05-05-2011, 12:14 AM	#6823
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	I don't think Hussie really tries to fool people. Not actively, anyway. While there are red herrings here and there for the purpose of enhancing various mysteries, he almost never seems to be trying to draw you toward false conclusions. Once you're acquainted with his particular storytelling method, you just have to be careful not to jump right on things, and be aware that he plays word games. The closest he does to trying to fool anybody is playing with and fueling speculation that already exists (Jack = Lord English has existed since all the way back in the Midnight Crew intermission, for instance). Even then though, I can't recall any instances where there such matters weren't at least addressed in comic. He is a pretty honest storyteller. Tavros is certainly someone who would have just cause to stab him some Vriska. I don't think this is really intended to make that seem likely, however. Speaking of red herrings; in spite of the fact that we've been given a likely candidate for Karkancestor, the association with His Honourable Tyranny is still pretty undeniable. I suspect there is SOME relation there, although it doesn't necessarily have to be genetic in n8ture. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here. Last edited by BitVyper; 05-05-2011 at 12:18 AM.

05-05-2011, 12:20 AM	#6826
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Anyone else noticing weird artifacts popping up in the images? I'm wondering if these are messed up animated gifs, or if the weirdness is intentional. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

05-05-2011, 12:25 AM	#6828
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Mindfang calls Mr. 69 The Sufferer... doesn't look good for Karkat if this IS his ancestor. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

05-05-2011, 12:32 AM	#6830
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Equius was an adept mechanist. Tavros was definitely quite a summoner. I imagine that The Sufferer's descendant, if he has one, would have some suffering to look forward to. Edit: Of course, that could mean a whooole lotta things. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

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05-04-2011, 11:57 PM	#6821
Aldurin Lakitu Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,648	Actually this may be Hussie trying to fool us and Tavros will somehow come back to life (in God Tier no less) and finally stab Vriska, thus making the ancestor thing more accurate than we would currently think.