Basic Roles Mafia

[Truce]

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If anybody asks who the hell I'm responding to in my previous post, it's to Nique's nonexistant post.

FOS: Nikose
FOS: Nique
Reason: Having names too damn close to each other. Damn it.

EDIT:

Since I'm here, I'd also like to point out, Nikose, that your argument wasn't very clear.

Originally Posted by Nikose

I rushed to an end vote at the end of the day because there was already 6 votes on Bookwork- nobody was likely to want to push it forward anymore, and CC would end up having to wait and let the game stagnate, since as a rule, Nobody wants to risk that last little "Oomph" vote, and in favor of keeping the game alive, I made that last oomph for the vote list. Yes, it killed the PO, which was an accident. I honestly agreed wtih the other votes, and didn't feel the need to keep pushing the whole idea on it.

It's clear what you give your reason as, but why didn't you mention your reasons, as dubious as they are, earlier? The only reason you voted for Mr. Bookworm to get lynched at the time was just to end the day. Your earlier actions as well could be seen as an attempt to draw attention away from yourself; trying to use humor to not have people look at you seriously.

Why wait until all of the other six votes were cast anyway? If you agreed with the other votes, why go after other people before hand; why didn't you just vote for Mr. Bookworm when you initially agreed with them?

Tsk.

I'll wait until both you and Nique have responded before I reconsider who to vote for.

[Death by Stabbing]

FOS: Fifthfiend

He has been unusually non-talkitive through out the game...usually he wouldn't let anyone out talk him...and yet many have...

Or maybe I'm just paranoid

[P-Sleazy]

Originally Posted by Ecurt

Of those, B_Real's avatar does have a gun. I also know from experience that B_Real is the type to set people up; I could honestly see him trying to lay low and make it look like Nique killed 42. However, I also recall that he would pick someone where the connection was stronger.

He speaketh the truth. I'm also very flattered. I'd probably have gone after Nikose or Nique solely because they kept argueing over the No Lynch thing and then try to pin it onto on of them today. Ecurt and I have worked together as mafia (and cult) in the past, so take his advice on me strongly. He knows how I think.

As for what this mafia is doing, I'm just going to go ahead and do this.
VOTE: Sheb

Originally Posted by Sheb

As far as needing to lynch someone, couldn't we all just vote for no lynching? [I]I'm not going to, it's probably like trying to vote for an independent in a presidential election... I just don't see any reason to vote someone right now other than for the sake of lynching someone for its own sake.[/I] But what the hell do I know?

I just don't like the vibe I'm getting off that italicized part. Yes, he is new, but still...It feels like the notion of a no lynch was put on him.

EDIT: Ok, so everything in quotes is Italicized, I underlined it too.

[Nique]

Originally Posted by fifthfiend

Rescind.

That's the one!

efficacy

...Ok, now you're just showing off.

Originally Posted by Ecurt

You said that 42 was not a threat to anybody, that the motive could not be traced back to anyone. This was after you admitted that 42 did FOS you and thus was a threat to you...

Except that I know that I'm not mafia. Naturally, my argument has to come from my perspective.

HOWEVER! That's still my mistake for not clarifying. Essentially, the FOS didn't scare me. I understood why he fos'd me, but I'm more concerned with votes. Plus there hasn't been a good case made against me from anyone. Even your theory;

in my earlier post I also pointed out reasons why you would pick 42 instead of Nikose to kill.

Again, with 42, it just wasn't that threatening. If I were mafia, basically whoever I hadn't any contact with would be dropping like flies. I mean yes there's the elaborate double-bluff, but that's too risky for me.

Originally Posted by DBS

Or maybe I'm just paranoid

That's the idea.

And B_real, is there any way you can convince us that the firearm in your avatar was not in fact the same gun that shot 42?

[Nikose Tyris]

I hate sitting and watch a day hang. I've seen games nearly die, and had people stop playing them, when nobody wanted to do that last vote. Nobody else had any real fire on them.

If Nobody had made that last vote on Bookie, then the game would have sat until CC made a deadline. CC would have made the deadline probably sometime the week we're in now, and the game would have stagnated. Stagnated game, means I won't bother to check up on it. Odds are, other people wouldn't have bothered either, and the game would have progressed for a while without anyone checking it.

I voted bookie because it was a first night random lynch. It was the PO. Was there ANY way to tell or stop that? Not in the slightest. We had no way of knowing that it was the PO or if it was Mafia. It could have been the pope and we wouldn't have known. First night votes are random, and now you have what appears to be a red herring to work on.

And Really, there was enough reason listed, and I'm a lazy bastard in my posts. I mean, c'mon. Now it just feels suspicious that I have Exactly 3 people focusing on me with votes. 3 Mafiates + 3 Votes on Nikose = ...?

FOS: Nique
FOS: Ogianres
FOS: Fifthfiend

On the grounds that, that looks like it could be a frightening and formidable mafia team.

[Sheb]

As for what this mafia is doing, I'm just going to go ahead and do this.
VOTE: Sheb



I just don't like the vibe I'm getting off that italicized part. Yes, he is new, but still...It feels like the notion of a no lynch was put on him.

EDIT: Ok, so everything in quotes is Italicized, I underlined it too.

Actually, came up with the notion of a no lynch (for the first night, anyway) on my one-sies. Kinda feel like I should've went with that instinct seeing as how the PO is dead, but hindsight is 20/20.

I'm not really sure why everyone seems to be suspecting Nique... as was pointed out, if Nique were mafia, it would seem he wouldn't push for a no lynch and just let us waste a townie the first night. It being the PO would just be an unexpected bonus.

That said, the case against Nikose seems to be the strongest. It seems just a little suspicious that he'd tip the vote against Bookworm with almost no reason... so, FOS: Nikose

[Nikose Tyris]

I already explained my reasoning. Calling it no reason is an excersize in foolishness.

[Sheb]

Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris

I already explained my reasoning. Calling it no reason is an excersize in foolishness.

Almost no reason. I'm saying I don't quite buy it.

[Ogianres]

Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris

I hate sitting and watch a day hang. I've seen games nearly die, and had people stop playing them, when nobody wanted to do that last vote. Nobody else had any real fire on them.

If Nobody had made that last vote on Bookie, then the game would have sat until CC made a deadline. CC would have made the deadline probably sometime the week we're in now, and the game would have stagnated. Stagnated game, means I won't bother to check up on it. Odds are, other people wouldn't have bothered either, and the game would have progressed for a while without anyone checking it.

Actually, it's still possible to goad people into rethinking their votes, and into thinking of other possible suspects, without letting the game stagnate. As long as people didn't just stop talking, I don't think it would have worked out that way.

Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris

I voted bookie because it was a first night random lynch. It was the PO. Was there ANY way to tell or stop that? Not in the slightest. We had no way of knowing that it was the PO or if it was Mafia. It could have been the pope and we wouldn't have known. First night votes are random, and now you have what appears to be a red herring to work on.

The very first round of votes are random, of course. But I have no reason to believe that lynching has to be random on the first day. Far from it, if it were just random, we would have less material to attach to certain people, less fodder for determining motive, and if it were truly random, the following night kill could not be used to implicate anyone. However, I think the last day went on long enough for me to get at least some idea.

[P-Sleazy]

You all do realize that whats said in this game is your word and your word alone and can't be logically proved true? Especially when it comes to explaining things? Our best bets in this game is to go off of people's actions/motifs, and not what they say.

Action/Motif = Votes/FOS + reasons stated when doing said action.
Things you say = comes after the fact that you did it and you have to explain yourself. (After people question what you did earlier in the game)