Pokemon Umbral Discussion 14: Discussion Thread Player Character Conspiracy #1

[Menarker]

Drac A: I assumed that you guys have leveled a bit along the way. (And that one of AB's rewards for this quest might be a boost in level via Rare Candies that Renny's family makes. But Renny's pokemon would be quite potent compared to the others.) The level 100 thing was to make math-work easy since I wouldn't have to make up a number on the scale to find out how high a pokemon's stat is, especially with stat boost moves. I could just take the highest number on the appropriate scale of the Serebi website. Takes a lot of math and guesswork out and less arguments.

Drac E: Guess we have an accord on that.

Drac F: I was planning on having it require AB approve any such moves in the first place, although with all the other benefits I posted, this one would be the first to go if I had to choose.

Drac G: Well, keep in mind that 100 power is still very nice for a few reasons. Some types don't have high power moves. Like how Dark types don't have any attack move more than 80 power and how Ghost only has one move over 100 and that's Giratiana's signature move and how one of the only bug type moves with high power is Megahorn which Heracross is the only bug type to have. Also, if Renny's pokemon is higher level than everyone else's pokemon, then it somewhat balances out. But more power is more power! I'm happy if they get more.

[Astral Harmony]

I did create such a character. Her name is Discord. And hey, she's the bitch with Pierce's Dialga! Oh, horrible, horrible circumstance.

You'll see 'er in Mission Three. And if you should happen to talk to her, you'll have your heart fucking crushed.

Kirie's not terribly different from you, either.

Still working on RP post.

[Geminex]

A: AB said that our pokemons are around 70s when we started, so I expect we're around late 70 or early 80s at this point. Maybe late 80s or early 90s for legendaries or leaders.

B: Well, basically they wouldn't be anything terribly drastic, but something that operates more on conditions than actual straight % boost. Here is a sample item.

Loyal Support Scarf (Unique Item)
Effect: Once per battle, when a Hit Points of a pokemon would be reduced to zero for any reason except for self use moves that directly make the pokemon faint such as Explosion, that pokemon's hitpoint remains at 1 instead for the entire turn regardless of how many times or how strongly it is hit or the effects of moves that hit it, unless the item is stolen/knocked off in the process. This item works regardless of whether of the damage is direct damage, status damage like confusion or poison or ghost curse, weather like sandstorm, or even OHKO move. The item is not consumed in the process. Only Renny's Pokemon can equip it and only one of this item can exist. If the item would be stolen, it is knocked off instead.

D: I was thinking 25%, no more than 50% boost. (Similar to a Permanent Helping Hand)

E: Only leaders and not exactly as powerful as legendaries sounds ok. (Although Mollesk is technically as powerful as Mewtwo stat wise and Togekiss would be a psuedo legendary if his attack stat was proportional to his other stats.)

F: Fine. That's cool. Not this one.

G: 100 power HM move with free ability to be whatever element the pokemon using it is? (If Swampert uses it, it's either a ground or water move). And its attack type (physical or special) can be chosen. (So Togekiss doesn't end up with a crappy Attack move or Swampert with an inferior Special Attack move)

A) Eh. Like Drac said, it is a rather large difference. If we assume that pokemon reach max level at the end of next mission (or maybe the one after that), I think it'd be ok. Though really, I'd find it preferable if we just assumed everyone was level 100.

B) Wait, what? Seriously? No. Nothing that powerful. Stuff that's situational, maybe some fun new berries, but something that amounts to a revive and auto-cast protect? That's rather strong. If this was your only thing, maybe, but in combination with the rest? Nah.

D) Humm...
Maybe this: All pokemon get an extra 30% when using STAB attack. So a 1.8 multiplier, rather than a 1.5. This works against anything.
E) Kay. Also, maybe add a condition that Testament Drives'll only work once par battle.
G) Lemme think about this one again.

Edit:
And in regards to Drac:
If I don't get lucky by the end of my sidequest, I'll drop it. I'll also make sure not to challenge her in the way you would. I can make that work.

[Astral Harmony]

I can see a Pokemon Breeder class, sure.

Anyways, I can't believe how long that post took. But it feels good to have finally done it.

Because Renny's side has it worse and the enemy Pokebrids understand fear better than Ruin Pokemon ever could, the Morale Integrity Level of the enemy formation on the front lawn is more sensitive. In other words, they'll frighten more easily, especially when the allies there start filling coffins.

Now each part of a battle incorporates synopsises for Ally Phase and Enemy Phase, so you can see a synopsis for what the good team does and a different synopses for what the enemy side does. Considering there's two parts to the battle (front lawn and back lawn), that's four synopsises in total.

[Geminex]

Yeah. The work you put in is really impressive. Check your user CP.

More Atunhand.

Is there some way to destroy corpses? Or, alternately, can we get a chance to hit any incoming Atunhand before they get their groove on?

Also, can Impact heal himself, to regain his ability to use Dragon Slaves?

Edit: Of course, AB's gone, so here's my plan...

Shizuka: Apple splitter. That's the multi-target one, right? Yes, that's the second signature technique I'm using, but it'll be worth it. Wait for Charlotte's and Whitney's moves to use it, though.
Kiyomi: Attack Orbishriek #1 with spear.
Rachel: Have Metagross hit the Atunhand.
Pierce: Have Metagross hit Orbishriek #2
Rayleen: Have Rayquaza hit the Atunhand. If it's dead already, have it split its attack between Orbishrieks #1 and #2.
Charlotte: Super fang on Juggernaut.
Impact: Dual-wield revolver and fire-damage gunblade, hit the Harpressor-lifted corpse. The fire, plus the impacts, should hopefully be enough to ignite it.
Pierce's personal: Pierce, hit Atunhand before Rayquaza does.
Charlotte's personal: Charlotte uses her shotgun against the Harpressor-lifted corpse, to shake it up a little.
Whitney: Dream eater on sleeping Orbishriek. (#4)
Mika's Juggernaut: Taunt enemy Juggernaut. I was initially planning to send it toward the pokebrids, to support them, but they really don't need support, whereas we certainly do...
Also, we request Renny's mother for support, to heal Impact. I want to be able to actually deal damage using Impact. I miss his competence already.
Also, also, Charlotte and Pierce might want to use some potions on their mons. I'd hate to lose Spitz.
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What this'll do:
Hopefully kill Orbishriek 1, 2 and 4. Again, I'd be happy with two out of three possible kills.
Kill Atunhand.
Detonate Harpressor-carried corpse. Should stop them from using it, and, with any luck, deal enough damage to them (along with Shizuka's attack) to kill them
Weaken Juggernaut to, say, 30%, and stop it from doing anything.
Kill the two pre-weakened Raikner (mechanized cavalry was awesome).

Best-case scenario, all of the above happens and we'd get counter-attacked by:
2 Raikner
1 Orbishriek

A more cynical prediction would be
2 Raikner
2 Orbishriek
1 Harpressor

Plus whatever reinforcements they have. It'd also produce one hell of a lot of corpses, so I fear Atunhand. Do any of our pokemon know earthquake? Cause I could totally imagine a metagross using earthquake to bury the corpses, but not actually deal damage to anyone.

[Menarker]

AB? Not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but Superpower reduces the Attack and Defence of the pokemon USING the move. It's a powerful move with a drawback, similar to Overheat.

Originally Posted by Geminex

A)
B) Wait, what? Seriously? No. Nothing that powerful. Stuff that's situational, maybe some fun new berries, but something that amounts to a revive and auto-cast protect? That's rather strong. If this was your only thing, maybe, but in combination with the rest? Nah.

The only thing this effectively work out as is a free attack (or free defense of someone using Follow Me) and any implications of it being at 1 hitpoint, while also preventing slow pokemons from being ganged up and knocked out before it does anything (All of my pokemon are fairly slow compared to Pierce or Charlotte). The pokemon is still left with one hitpoint, and is subject to being knocked out if it tries to do any other attack before it can be restored. The practical implications hardly any different from if it was or wasn't wearing it. If it wasn't wearing the item and it was knocked out, I use a Full Revive. With this item, the item used to bring it back is a Full Restore instead. Hardly much different. It sounds powerful, but in the long run, it's requiring the foe to press on just a bit extra harder to knock it out while buying time to set up or have an ally attack without fear. (Impact will be thankful if Togekiss for example guarded him from a powerful ruin pokemon). It's pretty much in theme with the entire defense/support thing that Renny is anyhow.

Maybe this: All pokemon get an extra 30% when using STAB attack. So a 1.8 multiplier, rather than a 1.5. This works against anything.

Doesn't make sense to me. The idea is that Renny's pokemon are so well trained and practiced professionals that they perform their attacks rather unerringly and probably hit more vital locations.

Keep in mind that I'm already self limiting so that I'm not switching out the pokemons for any other. (Might want to put a further restriction so that if Renny is ever forced to use a pokemon that isn't his Togekiss, Swampert, Magnezone, Umbreon, Shaymin, Mollesk, they don't get the bonuses pertaining to them.)



Testament Drives only working once seems fine to me.


Anyhow, that's for the future. ^^:


EDIT: If I send Dormond over to the other team to act as support, could he feasibly keep his maxed out attack stat to baton pass over to Impact or Shizuka? Then Rachel could heal him and Impact wreck havoc with stim boost giving him 150 to all stats, multiply the attack by 4 and sweep the foes using... Slayer's Sweep I guess. Or Shizuka does her 4X Apple Slicer

Heck, maybe I can get Matt to use Teleport on Dormond so there is no wasted time. Maria can heal up Matt then.


EDIT: Is this ok AB?

In response of Rayleen stating that Impact needs support, Renny sends Dormond to hopefully be teleported by Matt to the other side so he can Baton Pass the 6 stage Attack Boost to Impact or Shizuka. (Totally in character given Dormond loyalty to Rayleen)

Renny summons Shaymin's Flight Mode. Shaymin hits both Spinda and Delcatty with a divided STAB Seed Flare (Divide and STAB cancel each other out). 10% chance of flinching and 40% chance of reducing their special defence by 2 stages if they are still around, which I doubt. (I assume it's still daytime and thus Shaymin is still in flight mode?)

Dominic Snorlax to use Max Power Earthquake targeting Probopass for quad effective damage and Steelix for Super effective damage. Hope that the "backlash" will target Flying Shaymin and thus doesn't hit anyone on my side. SUCH INCREDIBLE DESTRUCTIVE POWER! Put the fear in everyone... including our foes. :3

Harriette to shoot down Spinda with Fighting bullets. Super Effective

Lola standby and heal the person/pokemon most damaged.

Shannon to attack Sandslash with Leafeon's Leaf Blade for Super Effective STAB damage

Moon to use Starmie's Psychic on Dustox

Evangaleen to use Thunder on Sharpedo. Super effective STAB

Maria to use Full Restore on Matt

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

I did create such a character. Her name is Discord. And hey, she's the bitch with Pierce's Dialga! Oh, horrible, horrible circumstance.

You'll see 'er in Mission Three. And if you should happen to talk to her, you'll have your heart fucking crushed.

Dibs.

Fucking dibs.

I agree with Impact's strategy. Would be nice if he can get Dormond's stats.

But who gets to give the orders?

[Menarker]

Orders for what?

Renny would just say that Maria won't leave him alone, that he sending a special boost courtesy of Dormond and that (using his entire mission leader authority) Rachel should heal Impact so he can use the boost right away.

Dormond get Teleported > Rachel heals Impact > Dormond cast Baton Pass on Impact > Impact flips his shit.

Although this might require Impact to edit his tactic since he'll be able to attack with Dragon Slave on the same turn... but I think that's worth it. ^^

150 Attack Stat, multiply that by 4, 130 power weapon, 8x damage with Dragon Slave... fun. ^^
Impact could feasably hit 2 or 3 ruin pokemons by having each take half or a third of the damage respectively, which could still do a shitload of damage, maybe still kill them.

EDIT! Alternatively, Dormond could cast Baton Pass on Shizuka. Multiply the power of her Apple Splitter by 4. ^^ Yeah, I'm thinking of doing that instead.

[Dracorion]

He could maybe even solo the Juggernaut.

I meant, who gets to, in-character give out Gem's strategy? You know, between Impact and Pierce.

Shizuka's boosted Apple Splitter would be good for one attack. 8x Dragon damage is forever.

[Menarker]

Well, the fun part is that Dormond can pass it to Shizuka, she rapes pretty much all the mooks while heavily damaging the big guys, while Rachel heals Impact.

Next turn, Dormond uses Psych-Up to copy the boost that was on Shizuka.

Turn after, Dormond Baton Passes it to Impact... *Repeat this two stage step for every target deserving a max attack boost.*