The New 52

[Magus]

It's uneven sure but so were the vast majority of the other comic books I've read. I based it more on my love for the story and how they actually managed to meaningfully establish characters like Mangler in only 44 pages, especially since he is just a one-shot villain ala Doomsday (who is a shell of a character compared to what they accomplished here despite both serving a similar purpose), while simultaneously commenting on both Superman and Batman's personalities and pasts and older storylines like The Death of Superman and so on...I dunno. Like this is the kind of concept that actually feels like it was aiming more for graphic novel territory but managed to get it done in about the equivalent of two comics pretty darn well. I wish they'd been given a graphic novel length stage, though, since then it could be paced even better and allow the writers to really go for broke.

[Fifthfiend]

So hey POS!

How 'bout that Amanda Waller, eh what?

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

So hey POS!

How 'bout that Amanda Waller, eh what?

I'm honestly under the impression that DC is trying to get someone to burn down their offices so they can cash in on the insurance, because it's the only way they can make any money at this point.

[Fifthfiend]

Hahaha wow, I only disbelieve that because it seems like far too rational of a business plan for me to imagine DC Comics pursuing it.

EDIT: God now I'm retroactively pissed off that they didn't cast CCH in their shitty Green Lantern movie.

Even if Angela Bassett ostensibly was one of the passably good-ish things about it.

[POS Industries]

DC announces that Batgirl is to appear in Birds of Prey #4, neglects to inform Gail Simone.

Colorist incorrectly references Stephanie Brown's costume because "what do you mean 'there's more than one Batgirl'?! I don't read any of this shit!"

[Jagos]

It's becoming more and more clear, that the best way for DC to make money is to have executive shut the fuck up, get out of the way of the artists and writers, and just worry about the legal stuff.

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by Jagos

It's becoming more and more clear, that the best way for DC to make money is to have executive shut the fuck up, get out of the way of the artists and writers, and just worry about the legal stuff.

"The executives" are like... Geoff Johns and Jim Lee.

...Like it seems more to me like if whatever other executives there got out of the way of the writers and artists, they'd get terrible writing and art, because their writers and artists are terrible.

edit:

T. Says:
September 14th, 2011 at 10:56 am

Wow, you know a transgression by DC must be really bad for Gail to break her usual consistent apologist stance toward the company.

Random Newsarama commenter, I'm repping you in my heart.

edit:

Originally Posted by POS Industries

DC announces that Batgirl is to appear in Birds of Prey #4, neglects to inform Gail Simone.

Colorist incorrectly references Stephanie Brown's costume because "what do you mean 'there's more than one Batgirl'?! I don't read any of this shit!"

Are the lines on that even how Babsgirl's costume is supposed to look?

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

Are the lines on that even how Babsgirl's costume is supposed to look?

Pretty much. You just don't notice it quite as much because of the whole gold on black on even more black color scheme of Babs' costume.

However, what is seen on the cover of BoP #4 is undoubtedly what Steph's costume would have looked like if she'd remained in the role post-reboot.

EDIT: So, you know, the poor girl dodged a bullet on that one, at least.

EDIT EDIT: Unlike Babs.

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by POS Industries

Pretty much. You just don't notice it quite as much because of the whole gold on black on even more black color scheme of Babs' costume.

Ah okay, yeah.

I guess I still can't blame the colorist too hard because the padded/lined look was originally from Steph's costume (and was also a million times better looking there but w/ev).

Originally Posted by POS Industries

EDIT: So, you know, the poor girl dodged a bullet on that one, at least.

EDIT EDIT: Unlike Babs.

Thank goodness it wasn't a drill.

[Jagos]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

...Like it seems more to me like if whatever other executives there got out of the way of the writers and artists, they'd get terrible writing and art, because their writers and artists are terrible.

This is DC... I already had lowered expectations.