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Unread 03-02-2016, 07:00 PM   #71
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Unread 03-02-2016, 09:50 PM   #72
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To be fair he only lost by 1.4% and Bill was breaking the law in spirit, if not in word, there.

If the margin were wider I wouldn't even contemplate that really mattering, but you know. 1.4% is a very small amount.
I know it was slimy -- 'slimy' is a word that pretty accurately encompasses the Clintons in general -- but still, a progressive Vermont senator losing in Massachusetts of all states really doesn't bode well.

I love Sanders and I desperately want him to win, but unless there's a serious scandal to uncover, it's just over. The superdelegate lead already ensures that Clinton would likely have the edge in the event that the delegate count from the actual primaries was close...but it doesn't even look like it will be close enough for the superdelegates to need to make a splash.

EDIT: Another major problem for Sanders now is the momentum Hillary's going to be able to continue plowing through given the next batch of states to vote in the primaries. March 5 should be OK; Bernie may actually win Nebraska, Kansas will at least be close, and Hillary's only guaranteed victory is Louisiana, where she'll pummel him. Shortly after that is Maine, where Bernie needs a win to have a prayer going forward.

But March 8 and March 15 will both be slaughterhouses. Hillary will clobber Bernie in Michigan and Mississippi. Then she'll have Florida (disproportionately older voters), North Carolina, Missouri, Illinois (all with larger minority populations as Democratic voters) and Ohio, Bernie's best bet that day, still has Bernie down twenty points -- 60/40 -- in polls.

If Hillary has considerably over 1,000 delegates after March 15 -- and that's projected to be the case -- she won't need superdelegates to win the nomination. If she gets over 1,250 -- which is more unlikely but within the realm of possibility -- she could then average 40% of the vote in every state yet to vote and still win the nomination. Even a late scandal likely wouldn't tip the scales.

EDIT 2: For the life of me, I don't understand why New York and California are buried so far down into the process. You'd think that -- for a political party with such strong bases of support in NYC, San Fran and LA! -- you'd want your base in the states that represent the bulk of your party to make the calls. Instead, the few Democrats in states the party will never wrest from Republicans in flyover territory are essentially deciding the nominee before NY and Cali have a say. Just seems weird, is all -- and I don't live in NY or CA.
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Unread 03-03-2016, 04:37 PM   #73
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unless there's a serious scandal to uncover, it's just over.
The staffer who set up Hilary's private email server that was storing leaked top-secret emails has been granted immunity by the DOJ in lieu of more information on the whole scandal.

So who knows, he could be the cog that sets her whole machine grinding to a halt. Or..nothing happens. It'll be interesting to watch unfold, to say the least. I'm of the persuasion that if a politician running for prez already generated as much heat and controversy as she has her campaign should've been rendered null and void. But that's just me.
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Unread 03-03-2016, 04:40 PM   #74
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Yeah as someone who works for the government I can say the potential of that particular scandal has a lot of potential weight. Spillage of classified documents is no joke, even if it doesn't have anything considerably important on it. Though I always assumed her aides were going to take the bullet for her and she'd walk away from it without incident.
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Unread 03-03-2016, 08:54 PM   #75
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You have to remember though that many of those "classified" documents were only recently classified after the fact by the Republican controlled congress in order to make this more of a thing. Hillary has a lot of wiggle room with this scandal and the American people have mostly stopped caring at this point out of outrage fatigue from the Right. I just don't think it will be a big enough ice burg to sink her.
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Unread 03-03-2016, 11:05 PM   #76
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Unread 03-03-2016, 11:09 PM   #77
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Uh... just in case, I feel I should mention: that's a link to the Simpsons bit on YouTube, not Cracked. Unless I'm somehow missing something.
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Unread 03-03-2016, 11:16 PM   #78
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Not that I disagree with the gist of your argument, Snake, but you should probably refrain from using phrases like "flyover territory". It's needless classism/elitism.

Being on the coast doesn't make you any better or worse than anyone else.
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Unread 03-03-2016, 11:20 PM   #79
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Unread 03-04-2016, 09:25 AM   #80
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Hey, bit of an odd question, is Jill Stein and her green party going to come up at any point cause I just realized today that I have heard jack shit about her so far. I was going to say that it's because she doesn't caucus but it looks online like she actually totally does?

Edit: Yes I know that if Bernie doesn't have a fish's chance in a barrel she's a guppy in a desert.
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