Nothing is as it Seems Mafia: The Game

[P-Sleazy]

It would only potentially reveal RR and Ole Dude WTF if he turns up scum. But now with his claim of "townie mason" and he ends up as just that, then we don't have confirmation on anyone because Nikose could have been a Scum PO masoned with a townie or just regular scum feeding info to his townie buddy.

Either way,

UNVOTE: RussianReversal
VOTE: NEWB!

[Pink Bunny]

Originally Posted by Newb

Except the idea here is that once they see my role they're likely to listen.

unvote: RR vote: me

I really hope that some total jackass doesn't distract you all from this list that I'm leaving you guys.

Way too many time I've seen somebody post a list, die, the list get ignored, and then seen town lose because the list gets ignored.

I'll make sure it doesn't.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Can someone real quick run down what happens if we do lynch Newb? Is anyone confirmed as scum, or what?

[OctoberRaven]

They THINK it will confirm RR or possibly me, but as there are THREE scum factions, not one, it doesn't really confirm anything if Newb is scum.

[russianreversal]

Well, actually just me right now (for some reason or another, I'm not even going to pretend I'm following their logic). But if he's who he claims he is, it clears ODWTF, and puts Zilla in a suspicious light, among other people. I don't know where Tendronai came into this either.

Chain of events for Ole' Dude:
Sith accuses ODWTF
Sith dies
I, for some stupid reason think that Sith's math is right, and accuse ODWTF
Newb claims that he knows that ODWTF is town from Nikose (I think) and accuses me
I unvote ODWTF and bandwagon Demetrius
I go on vacation, welcoming all to lynch me while I'm away
I come back and Demetrius is dead and there are 8 votes for me, partially over me bandwagoning Demetrius.
Lots of shits.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Who he claims he is is NO ONE. He already said he was just mason'd to a dead guy. So really, his dying and being innocent clears no one and scumifies no one. Him dying as scum might, might, might give us some innocents, but it could just as easily give us his enemy scum buddies or his own and we won't know what cause we won't trust his information. Newb's hunches are useful and why can't we kill someone he suspects to find out whether or not his gut is right?

[P-Sleazy]

Because Newb's a liar and deserves to die before we try any of his "hunchs".

I also find it convenient that he now claims he was masoned with a dead player. On top of that, it was Nikose who died night 1. There should be no reason that Newb should know the results of that investigation (if Nikose even was a PO) since Nikose himself shouldn't have recieved those results himself when he died that same night.

EDIT: Unless of course Fenris sends stuff to dieing people who then talk to their mason buddies after thier death about game altering facts, which would be cheating wouldn't it (on Nikose's and Newb's part, not Fenris')? You know the saying, "dead men don't talk". Or something like that.

EDIT2: Removed "Filthy" in front of Liar. toned it down a little...

[Pink Bunny]

Why not say he's Filthy and a Liar?

[P-Sleazy]

Because...Liars don't deserve to be called filthy. Filth is consistent. Liars are not.

[bananarama]

Well. Well. So Newb is aiming to be a sacrificial lamb here? All right (you lied and changed your story multiple times and you want to have yourself lynched? I say "Yay! Makes decision-making easier for me!").

Vote: Newb

If your roleclaim is true then I will follow that list of yours since seriously we have nothing better to go on. Also, OR, will also be on the list since he was completely focused on lynching you... But if your roleclaim is false, well.... happily ever after? Well actually ODWTF would go on the top my "to-lynch" list if you turn out scum... But first an FOS-spree to at least commit myself to this statement for now....

FOS: OctoberRaven
FOS: Zilla
FOS: RR
FOS: Wasoe
FOS:Tendronai
FOS: ODWTF