Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 840

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 10-06-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by POS Industries

If you aren't developing your main characters gradually throughout the story, you're doing it wrong.

Well he's getting some and there's a lot more being set up, which is the case with almost all of them.

I just think it's all going to come to conclusion and realization after their game is over.

Art of Hilt · 10-06-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by POS Industries

I'm talking all of them in general.

Huh.
I don't think I could ever do that. I can't put the patron trolls anywhere near the same level as, like, Eridan or Feferi.

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The Gollum comparison fits because they are so heavily important to the background of the story, came into the main tale itself later, and became hugely important at the end. The Lando comparison is showing how they should be handled versus how they actually are.

Arguably the fact that they (patron trolls) are not being handled like Lando suggests that maybe they aren't supposed to be Lando.

I mean, are they (patron trolls) really side characters at this point? The story has put so much focus on them and introduced them so early that it doesn't feel like they're supposed to be regarded as side characters anymore. I mean, sure, the story starts off as being about four kids who play a game, but in reality it's turning out to be a multiuniversal story about players across a couple of sessions protecting existence against Jack Noir/Lord English/whatever. Even the special arbitrary story number, 413, got promoted to 1025 (= 413+612) ages ago. Everything is pretty much saying, "You see this small handful of trolls? The four or so out of twelve are main characters now."

You know how you mentioned making Hivebent an intermission? Maybe the fact that it isn't an intermission is indicative of how at least some of the characters in it are, in fact, characters who are on the level of needing their own proper act.

Bard The 5th LW · 10-06-2011, 05:01 PM

I don't really think John needs a huge amount of development slapped down his way. Like, growth sure, but he actually never struck me as someone who needed a great deal of development. I think that Characterization and Development been rather noticeable in the other kids though.

Kim · 10-06-2011, 05:07 PM

Grown ass men seriously discussion Homestuck

Art of Hilt · 10-06-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Liz

Grown ass men seriously discussion Homestuck

It's always possible to discuss it not-seriously.
IE, [your favorite character] is extremely poopy.
[Gender-appropriate pronoun] is poopy as ALL HELL

POS Industries · 10-06-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Art of Hilt

[your favorite character] is extremely poopy.
[Gender-appropriate pronoun] is poopy as ALL HELL

SO'S YOUR FACE!

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Originally Posted by Art of Hilt

You know how you mentioned making Hivebent an intermission? Maybe the fact that it isn't an intermission is indicative of how at least some of the characters in it are, in fact, characters who are on the level of needing their own proper act.

That's my point, though. They shouldn't be, and in doing so has, in my opinion, been to the detriment of the story overall.

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Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW

I don't really think John needs a huge amount of development slapped down his way. Like, growth sure, but he actually never struck me as someone who needed a great deal of development. I think that Characterization and Development been rather noticeable in the other kids though.

Growth is character development.

Art of Hilt · 10-06-2011, 05:20 PM

Oh yeah?
WELL IT'S OPPOSITE DAY

POS Industries · 10-06-2011, 05:22 PM

Oh... you... BASTARD!

Ryong · 10-06-2011, 06:44 PM

Remember when trolls were introduced and everyone hated them because they were just a bunch of new characters that didn't matter and only way to differentiate was because of their typing quirks, font color and two-letter handles?

Let's take that then do a small intermission and then have the trolls still interact with the kids and shit is happening with them that concerns the kids but you're never going to find out more than small bits of information.

Or we get to see more of the trolls and it turns out they have some decent characterization and development.

Shit, it's either that or people'd be going "I want to see more of the trolls, they actually didn't suck as much as I initially thought!".

**Revising Ocelot** · 10-06-2011, 06:55 PM

The hiatus was going so well!

But now this topic has imploded. Exactly like the other two Homestuck topics I've seen on other forums! (But that's no excuse to start posting mountains of fanart like in those two)

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10-06-2011, 05:01 PM	#8393
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	I don't really think John needs a huge amount of development slapped down his way. Like, growth sure, but he actually never struck me as someone who needed a great deal of development. I think that Characterization and Development been rather noticeable in the other kids though.

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Ryong Professional Threadkiller Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,798	Remember when trolls were introduced and everyone hated them because they were just a bunch of new characters that didn't matter and only way to differentiate was because of their typing quirks, font color and two-letter handles? Let's take that then do a small intermission and then have the trolls still interact with the kids and shit is happening with them that concerns the kids but you're never going to find out more than small bits of information. Or we get to see more of the trolls and it turns out they have some decent characterization and development. Shit, it's either that or people'd be going "I want to see more of the trolls, they actually didn't suck as much as I initially thought!".