Urban Mafia

[Captain Combustible]

My evidence is that B_real's role seemed to need rygars role dead to win and when B_real revealed LHN's name he thought he might still live so he would probably give out a mafiates name since if he lied he would never get rygar killed.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

That's fair enough, though he needed me dead too.
Vote: LHN

[Death by Stabbing]

Why would B_Real have any knowledge of what role LHN has? I don't think B_Real had the ability to inspect other characters.

Also what if LHN is a PO? Then if he knew LHN's role why wouldn't he yell it out. His role was self aligned and he'd have nothing to lose either way. And it's not like rygar has fared any better than B_Real...he's dead too.

Also I don't see any connection between the 2 aside from them being self aligned.

[Captain Combustible]

Originally Posted by Death by Stabbing

Why would B_Real have any knowledge of what role LHN has? I don't think B_Real had the ability to inspect other characters.

Also what if LHN is a PO? Then if he knew LHN's role why wouldn't he yell it out. His role was self aligned and he'd have nothing to lose either way. And it's not like rygar has fared any better than B_Real...he's dead too.

Also I don't see any connection between the 2 aside from them being self aligned.

except B_real was in the mafia so I think he knew who else was in it, seriously did you miss the day B_real revealed the 2 mafia dons or what?

[Death by Stabbing]

Originally Posted by Captain Combustible

except B_real was in the mafia so I think he knew who else was in it, seriously did you miss the day B_real revealed the 2 mafia dons or what?

I must have...I have real life shit to take care of some times...I can't sit at a computer all day.

Ok so he knew people in the mafia...So what if people in the mafia knew POs or some one else town aligned? Couldn't LHN be one of those people?

I just don't see the justification of going after LHN on untrustworthy information.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Well all we have is untrustworthy information. If there was a more compelling target then we would vote it.
I don't think B_Real would have taken this risk here and that LHN was a feeder to convince us of his reliability. He was so reluctant to give it out, we had to really beat it out of him, that I don't think it's someone he really had to kill.

[Ole' Dude With the Face]

Originally Posted by DBS

Ok so he knew people in the mafia...So what if people in the mafia knew POs or some one else town aligned? Couldn't LHN be one of those people?

My point is that obviously at that point b_real was no longer working with the mafia. He was a rogue agent bent almost entirely upon the destruction of both mafias then. He had the information to destroy them. There is almost no reason to think of why they would want to work with him after he had outed them as such. The only thing that appears to have kept b_real alive is the killers believed the town would have protected b_real that night, so their attacks would be wasted.

If b_real and the scum knew who the POs were already, its too late to save them. We've already seen both of our POs die in one night. We have a doctor and a vigilante (I think we have one of them left) left to rely on. If those roles were known by b_real, who already knew all the scum roles, then this game truly is broken, to have one player who knows EVERY single power role and to have his own completely seperate agenda be allowed to play is completely ridiculous.

Also, as much as I hate to say this coming off of my recent inactivity, LHN/Rhiya is almost as close to inactive as it can get. Even as a role, they are unhelpful. We'll get rid of an inactive player either way. Just whether it is an inactive mafiate/gangster, townie, or whatever is the question. And with b_real suspicious behaviour, I'm willing to bet LHN/Rhiya is scum.

[Death by Stabbing]

The mafia has been killing the same amount every night...your argument is based on the fact that LHN/Rhiya is inactive. Well obviously who ever is killing the townsfolk is not inactive. So there for it is unlikely that LHN/Rhiya is mafia. If we waste our votes on someone who is inactive then the Mafia kills 3 more of us in the night where is that going to leave us?

[Captain Combustible]

Originally Posted by Death by Stabbing

The mafia has been killing the same amount every night...your argument is based on the fact that LHN/Rhiya is inactive. Well obviously who ever is killing the townsfolk is not inactive. So there for it is unlikely that LHN/Rhiya is mafia. If we waste our votes on someone who is inactive then the Mafia kills 3 more of us in the night where is that going to leave us?

that would only apply if he was the don and since each mafia should have 2 mafiates left the GM would probably have the active one (after the original don got lynched) become the new don.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

And one of those 3 kills should be the vig I think. Or maybe a SK.