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Fifthfiend · 10-26-2011, 12:07 AM

I think my favorite thing about the flash is that Doc Scratch is straight-up lying the entire time.

Because why does any top-tier villain go to the incredible hassle of painstakingly cultivating a reputation for never actually TECHNICALLY lying, if not so they can tell a universe-destroyingly massive straight-up lie?

Locke cole · 10-26-2011, 12:54 AM

Well, I found someone who came up with a different conclusion.

Amake · 10-26-2011, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

I think my favorite thing about the flash is that Doc Scratch is straight-up lying the entire time.

Because why does any top-tier villain go to the incredible hassle of painstakingly cultivating a reputation for never actually TECHNICALLY lying, if not so they can tell a universe-destroyingly massive straight-up lie?

Well, the only other one I know is Lucifer (in the comic Lucifer) who does it out of nothing but pride. Doc has a lot in common with him actually, probably why I never questioned his claims to truthiness. (Still not entirely buying it.)

Locke cole · 10-26-2011, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Amake

Well, the only other one I know is Lucifer (in the comic Lucifer) who does it out of nothing but pride. Doc has a lot in common with him actually, probably why I never questioned his claims to truthiness. (Still not entirely buying it.)

Comparing him to Lucifer, in any work, seems appropriate. Again, Old Scratch.

mauve · 10-26-2011, 03:08 AM

Holy moly that was a long movie. I can see why it took Hussie so long to complete! I dunno where to even start discussing it though. Quite a lot went on and I'm sure I'll have to watch it several more times before I fully get everything that was going on.

I am, like most other people who've posted in this thread depressed about the distinct lack of Exiles now, especially after losing WV. [Although to be quite honest, I didn't really care about the White Queen and King, so the loss of those characters is not really a big deal.] But PM was always one of my favorites for some reason, so while I'm depressed that she's now a giant winged dog-thing and not dazed-looking chess piece lady anymore, at least she's still alive and, apparently, going to be badass in the near future.

God Tier Jade is pretty awesome; the planet-moving, fourth-wall-creating shenanigans are fantastic and make her suddenly more badass. I'm not sold on God Tier Dave yet; he just looks kind of boring and generic in comparison. And if Jadesprite disappeared when Jade went God Tier, did the same thing happen to Davesprite? He was still on the battlefield when Jade shrunk it, although God Dave didn't appear until much later, so I guess it's yet to be seen.

Also, the two universe-tubes in the Tumor: The Red coincided with the human's universe and the blue with the Midnight Crew/ Troll(???) universe. Do you suppose that Sollux's shades, which were similarly colored and in close-up showed off pictures of spiraling galaxies, meant that Sollux was able to view both universes?

Locke cole · 10-26-2011, 03:17 AM

I don't think so. Sollux's shades were only used as symbolism. He had no idea who the various "douthebags" on Earth were, for example.

As for god-Dave. First of all, I like his design. No trailing god-hood for him, he's got a freaking CAPE. It really makes him look like a Knight. As for Davesprite, no. I do not think he vanished when Dave when God-Tier. Jadesprite merged with Jade because Jadesprite was prototyped with the body of Jade's dream self. Whereas Davesprite was prototyped with a future realself Dave. See, God-Tiering merges the real and dreamselves, but it seems that God-Tiering can happen even if one self has died and been given the revival kiss. The kiss probably merges the two or something, and in that case, dying on the Quest Bed just does the power-up, since the merging has already happened. That happened to both Dave and Rose. In Jade's case, she never got a kiss because her realself was the one who survived, so she merged with Jadesprite, who is still, very technically, her dreamself.

Arcanum · 10-26-2011, 04:01 AM

I love Dave's godtier design, though I've seen people hating on it across the internet. The steel-toed boots, the hood in the style of chainmail, the cape, it all just screams "Knight," and that's what I love about it.

As for the Exiles, the universe was being destroyed anyway. They were going to die regardless. The only thing that could have saved them was if they took the transportalizer to its second setting (instead of the setting Jack (and PM) took), but they were clearly going to blow up the capsule. I guess what I'm saying is Jack made their deaths more personal (and thus gave PM a reason to chase after him) instead of their deaths being a random casualty of a dying universe.

Also Locke pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Specterbane · 10-26-2011, 04:31 AM

Has anyone else noticed that no Derse dreamer has died on their quest bed? Unless you want to count Green Suit Dave but I don't think he died on it. Apparently all the Derse Dreamers have needed to use their dream tombs it seems.

Locke cole · 10-26-2011, 09:10 AM

I'm starting to think that Derse Dreamers don't have Quest Beds on the Battlefield; only in their planet and in Derse's moon's core. It's been true of Aradia, Dave, and Rose, though I guess it can't be known for sure unless we hear about their Battlefield Quest Beds, or lack thereof.

Wait. I may be mistaken here. It's true that John resurrected on an equivalent Quest Bed on the Battlefield, right?

Art of Hilt · 10-26-2011, 09:24 AM

Yes, he did.
I think this is all just the way the story panned out and parallels that are just narrative, as opposed to some in-game rule.

10-26-2011, 12:07 AM	#8511
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	I think my favorite thing about the flash is that Doc Scratch is straight-up lying the entire time. Because why does any top-tier villain go to the incredible hassle of painstakingly cultivating a reputation for never actually TECHNICALLY lying, if not so they can tell a universe-destroyingly massive straight-up lie? __________________ check out my buttspresso

10-26-2011, 03:08 AM	#8515
mauve So Dreamy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Someplace magical Posts: 6,863	Holy moly that was a long movie. I can see why it took Hussie so long to complete! I dunno where to even start discussing it though. Quite a lot went on and I'm sure I'll have to watch it several more times before I fully get everything that was going on. I am, like most other people who've posted in this thread depressed about the distinct lack of Exiles now, especially after losing WV. [Although to be quite honest, I didn't really care about the White Queen and King, so the loss of those characters is not really a big deal.] But PM was always one of my favorites for some reason, so while I'm depressed that she's now a giant winged dog-thing and not dazed-looking chess piece lady anymore, at least she's still alive and, apparently, going to be badass in the near future. God Tier Jade is pretty awesome; the planet-moving, fourth-wall-creating shenanigans are fantastic and make her suddenly more badass. I'm not sold on God Tier Dave yet; he just looks kind of boring and generic in comparison. And if Jadesprite disappeared when Jade went God Tier, did the same thing happen to Davesprite? He was still on the battlefield when Jade shrunk it, although God Dave didn't appear until much later, so I guess it's yet to be seen. Also, the two universe-tubes in the Tumor: The Red coincided with the human's universe and the blue with the Midnight Crew/ Troll(???) universe. Do you suppose that Sollux's shades, which were similarly colored and in close-up showed off pictures of spiraling galaxies, meant that Sollux was able to view both universes? __________________ Yoo Hoo!

10-26-2011, 04:31 AM	#8518
Specterbane Safety First Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Land of Gumdrops and Ice-cream Posts: 746	Has anyone else noticed that no Derse dreamer has died on their quest bed? Unless you want to count Green Suit Dave but I don't think he died on it. Apparently all the Derse Dreamers have needed to use their dream tombs it seems. __________________ http://www.nuklearforums.com/showpos...ostcount=10436

10-26-2011, 09:24 AM	#8520
Art of Hilt tamp tamp tamp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,270	Yes, he did. I think this is all just the way the story panned out and parallels that are just narrative, as opposed to some in-game rule. __________________ Hey baby, I hear the blues a-callin'. Tossed salad and scrambled eggs Oh My! Mercy! And maybe I seem a bit confused, yeah maybe, but I got you pegged! But I don�t know what to do with those tossed salads and scrambled eggs. They're calling again.

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10-26-2011, 04:01 AM	#8517
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	I love Dave's godtier design, though I've seen people hating on it across the internet. The steel-toed boots, the hood in the style of chainmail, the cape, it all just screams "Knight," and that's what I love about it. As for the Exiles, the universe was being destroyed anyway. They were going to die regardless. The only thing that could have saved them was if they took the transportalizer to its second setting (instead of the setting Jack (and PM) took), but they were clearly going to blow up the capsule. I guess what I'm saying is Jack made their deaths more personal (and thus gave PM a reason to chase after him) instead of their deaths being a random casualty of a dying universe. Also Locke pretty much hit the nail on the head.